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Anonymous wrote:Times have changed. I do some interviewing of recent college grads for our org and a significant percentage of them mention being in therapy.

I'd be glad that they were upfront about this, so I'd know not to hire them. I don't want mentally unstable people working for me! Also, I would not want to deal with them missing work for therapy.

Major ADA violation. The OP is right that potential employees should not be discussing their need for accommodations before they are hired, because people like you will discriminate against them. But if you denied an employee time off to take care of a medical problem (which is what therapy is) you would 100% lose any resulting lawsuit.

Reading comprehension, defensive PP. Just try.

What did I misunderstand? The PP I responded to said they wouldn't knowingly hire someone with a mental health disability because they wouldn't want to "deal with" them needing time off to go to therapy.

I’m going to be a devil’s advocate for a minute and say that they’re helping destigmatize mental health issues by talking about them up front instead of hiding them out of shame. Also, we wouldn’t expect someone with an obvious physical disability, like using a wheelchair, to have to hide that in an interview, so why should people who have limitations due to mental health have to be deceptive.

I do agree that it is not to their benefit to disclose these issues in a cover letter and that it’s unprofessional to do so. I think there is more gray area when bringing it up during an actual interview, but it is probably best left unsaid.

The under 35s are very comfortable sharing their mental health issues. I’m not sure how common it is on job interviews but guaranteed you have hired some counselors that has some mental health issues. It’s a combination of more is known medically and the shame that so many had to endure for having this type of illness is going away.

That said nobody wants to hear about their self diagnosed ailments. I don’t know if it helps or hurts people with serious mental health diagnoses. My sister with schizophrenia suffered horribly from debilitating symptoms along with people treating her badly her whole life and talking down to her as if she wasn’t an intelligent woman with feelings.

Hearing voices and watching doors melt when you’re talking a walk produces anxiety. Having to work with people full time might produce discomfort.

Anonymous wrote:I sit on a lot of hiring panels and stuff like this is rampant. I’ve had interviews where instead of answering our questions, they just want to know about work life balance. Asking about whether they can end work at 2pm and work again at 9pm. Another wanted to travel the world while working remotely from hotel rooms. But yes, please don’t tell me about mental health issues in an interview. I work at a flexible place but people really push the boundaries

So much of this lately.
1.Demanding top level c-suite compensation at entry level.
2. Discussing diagnostic information in a field where descression with information is key.
3. Showing up to interview looking absurd, dirty sweatpants, cartoonish piercing and hairstyles which I could overlook if they weren't in a crop top too.
4. Expecting summers off or drastically reduced hours fully remote. We are not a remote business.
5. The hiring committee jokes that dx and activist message of choice is the new he/she/they label.

Anonymous wrote:For many kids, their mental health issues (usually self-diagnosed) are their whole identity.

That’s really 😞 sad

Kids do this because it's what they see adults doing. Maybe we're all just used to it, but the entire culture is awash with bs therapy speak about everything. Go to therapy for the slightest of reasons.

I sit on a lot of hiring panels and stuff like this is rampant. I’ve had interviews where instead of answering our questions, they just want to know about work life balance. Asking about whether they can end work at 2pm and work again at 9pm. Another wanted to travel the world while working remotely from hotel rooms. But yes, please don’t tell me about mental health issues in an interview. I work at a flexible place but people really push the boundaries

I interviewed five 22-25 years olds over the past two weeks for an entry level job. Two brought up they needed accommodations (we work in office fully, no WFH and this job can’t be done from home) to work from home as their mental health conditions (one mentioned adhd and anxiety) would increase if they had to be around people 5 days a week. Part of me is horrified they asked and part of me is impressed by their balls to do so.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Times have changed. I do some interviewing of recent college grads for our org and a significant percentage of them mention being in therapy.

I'd be glad that they were upfront about this, so I'd know not to hire them. I don't want mentally unstable people working for me! Also, I would not want to deal with them missing work for therapy.

Major ADA violation. The OP is right that potential employees should not be discussing their need for accommodations before they are hired, because people like you will discriminate against them. But if you denied an employee time off to take care of a medical problem (which is what therapy is) you would 100% lose any resulting lawsuit.

Reading comprehension, defensive PP. Just try.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Times have changed. I do some interviewing of recent college grads for our org and a significant percentage of them mention being in therapy.

I'd be glad that they were upfront about this, so I'd know not to hire them. I don't want mentally unstable people working for me! Also, I would not want to deal with them missing work for therapy.

Major ADA violation. The OP is right that potential employees should not be discussing their need for accommodations before they are hired, because people like you will discriminate against them. But if you denied an employee time off to take care of a medical problem (which is what therapy is) you would 100% lose any resulting lawsuit.

Tangential question. How does sick leave work then, if an employer needs to allow an employee time off for any medical matter at any time? (I agree time off for mental health matters is no different than time off for physical health matters.)

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Anonymous wrote:For many kids, their mental health issues (usually self-diagnosed) are their whole identity.

Yes. These days everyone has a mental health issue. Everyone.

This is so true. My kid included (sigh)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Times have changed. I do some interviewing of recent college grads for our org and a significant percentage of them mention being in therapy.

I'd be glad that they were upfront about this, so I'd know not to hire them. I don't want mentally unstable people working for me! Also, I would not want to deal with them missing work for therapy.

Major ADA violation. The OP is right that potential employees should not be discussing their need for accommodations before they are hired, because people like you will discriminate against them. But if you denied an employee time off to take care of a medical problem (which is what therapy is) you would 100% lose any resulting lawsuit.

Anonymous wrote:For many kids, their mental health issues (usually self-diagnosed) are their whole identity.

For many adults, too. It feels like we have fallen off a cliff as a culture.

Anonymous wrote:Times have changed. I do some interviewing of recent college grads for our org and a significant percentage of them mention being in therapy.

I'd be glad that they were upfront about this, so I'd know not to hire them. I don't want mentally unstable people working for me! Also, I would not want to deal with them missing work for therapy.

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Anonymous wrote:Not exactly the same as talking about mental health issues but we had a fresh out of college hire go to the president of the firm that she was being bullied after another employee accidentally dropped her lunch and some of it went under the new kid’s cube that she didn’t see to clean up (I witnessed the accident, the “bullied” employee did not). Makes me not want to put this employee on a project knowing their amazing ability to fabricate bullying incidents.

To zoomers, any inconvenience is a “bullying incident”.

They are all being made to feel uncomfortable… https://www.resumebuilder.com/4-in-10-gen-zers-say-theyve-experienced-bullying-since-returning-to-the-office/