Anonymous wrote:People, the correct answer is KU.

Do you mean University of Kansas? If so, how does it compare in terms of Greek/non-Greek balance?

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Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin, Michigan, Texas, Virginia

By size alone, these are not comparable. WTAF.

They are similar in their academic levels, which to many people is crucial.

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Anonymous wrote:How about Virginia Tech? They aren’t an exact match but do have some similar aspects and check a lot of the same boxes.

But it’s a much larger school in a more remote location.

They’re both large schools—UNC has 20,000 undergraduates and Tech has 30,000. I concede they aren’t an exact match in terms of location, but they do have a lot of similarities (big sports school, traditional campus feel, and 20% of students active in Greek life).

That 20% of students in Greek life isn’t accurate and is misleading. As of 2022 17% of undergraduates are in professional and social organizations, which includes (but is not limited to) Greek organizations but also includes honor and service societies, NPHC/Divine Nine and MGC. While UNC does have a Greek system, it isn’t as dominating or as even close to as large as many similar schools. So comparing it to UVA or Va Tech or UGA or another large public with a big Greek system doesn’t work.

2022 stats here https://fsl.unc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Copy-of-SP-22-Public-report1.pdf

You’re really parsing details here. These are just suggestions and ideas with basic data points for comparison. OP, can take them or leave them. Not sure why you felt the need to bust out a Greek life spreadsheet to try to prove me wrong—relax!

Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin, Michigan, Texas, Virginia

At least two of these are still reaches, even for high stats kids. OP is seeking *targets* comparable to UNC.

Anonymous wrote:Wisconsin, Michigan, Texas, Virginia

By size alone, these are not comparable. WTAF.

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Anonymous wrote:How about Virginia Tech? They aren’t an exact match but do have some similar aspects and check a lot of the same boxes.

But it’s a much larger school in a more remote location.

They’re both large schools—UNC has 20,000 undergraduates and Tech has 30,000. I concede they aren’t an exact match in terms of location, but they do have a lot of similarities (big sports school, traditional campus feel, and 20% of students active in Greek life).

That 20% of students in Greek life isn’t accurate and is misleading. As of 2022 17% of undergraduates are in professional and social organizations, which includes (but is not limited to) Greek organizations but also includes honor and service societies, NPHC/Divine Nine and MGC. While UNC does have a Greek system, it isn’t as dominating or as even close to as large as many similar schools. So comparing it to UVA or Va Tech or UGA or another large public with a big Greek system doesn’t work.

2022 stats here https://fsl.unc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Copy-of-SP-22-Public-report1.pdf

Wisconsin, Michigan, Texas, Virginia

Wisconsin with better weather

People, the correct answer is KU.

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Anonymous wrote:How about Virginia Tech? They aren’t an exact match but do have some similar aspects and check a lot of the same boxes.

But it’s a much larger school in a more remote location.

They’re both large schools—UNC has 20,000 undergraduates and Tech has 30,000. I concede they aren’t an exact match in terms of location, but they do have a lot of similarities (big sports school, traditional campus feel, and 20% of students active in Greek life).

What about UNC does your DD like? Is it the culture, the size, the location, the school spirit/activities?

I went to Chapel Hill and have had a relative attending there at any one time for the last 15 years (I have a big family). Reasons why we loved it and wanted to go there: medium size (not too small but not way too big) state flagship, very economically/class level diverse which translates to a more chill vibe with less focus on Greek life (their Greek system is much smaller compared to peer schools) and it doesn’t control the social scene, great college town in which the students are embraced by locals, very high school spirit and school pride, not as preppy or stuck up as its peer schools (sorry UVA but it’s true), great alumni network.

My cousin’s daughter didn’t get in and wanted a similar experience so instead went to Wisconsin-Madison and LOVED it. Lots of cross over in characteristics (although colder weather). She had such a positive experience she still lives there after graduation.

UNC is not like UGA or UVA other than they have great college towns.

Easier to get into, but beautiful & happy places: Miami of Ohio, U of Oklahoma, U of Kansas.

Anonymous wrote:How about Virginia Tech? They aren’t an exact match but do have some similar aspects and check a lot of the same boxes.

But it’s a much larger school in a more remote location.

Anonymous wrote:UNC is UVA with fewer Rhodes Scholars

Agree with this. My kid was torn between UNC and UVA—very similar schools and size but UVA seemed more UMC and preppy, whereas UNC drew more students from inside NC than UVA did from VA, so the student body felt more economically diverse. Kid chose UVA.

I agree with Indiana. Not clear if you can take or leave Greek life there - explore that. Might be a valuable safety.

Csn you explain what she doesn't like about Ohio State? That would be what you should avoid when evaluating other flagships.