Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Before this thread goes further:

MCPD would not have made the decision to release the suspects to their parents. They follow the direction of the Department of Juvenile Services (DJS). DJS would make the decision whether or not to hold them.

If you’re concerned about this decision, then you would have to direct your questions to DJS. And they won’t tell you anyway because the case involves juveniles.

Thank you for that clarification. Does anyone know why DJS would make this call?

Anonymous wrote:Before this thread goes further:

MCPD would not have made the decision to release the suspects to their parents. They follow the direction of the Department of Juvenile Services (DJS). DJS would make the decision whether or not to hold them.

If you’re concerned about this decision, then you would have to direct your questions to DJS. And they won’t tell you anyway because the case involves juveniles.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


Releasing kids who have shown the wherewithal to find their ways to guns does seem like the strangest thing in the world. It says to me they have no place to hold them and obviously no one wants to foster them (nor would that be safer). We do need to start building juvenile facilities with proper wrap around services and accountability again.


Or charge them as adults and send them to prison.

Or, we create juvenile detention facilities that are seriously committed to repatterning behavior---not just holding pens where the kids can while away their days playing Grand Theft Auto and learning further criminal behavior from other miscreants. Serious repatterning involves seriously relentless structure plus nurture. Tiered systems of privileges tied to achieving educational and behavioral milestones. Therapy and therapeutic interventions to try to deal with kids who have prenatal exposure brain damage and/or trauma that impairs their ability to regulate emotions and appreciate cause and effect consequences. Educational milestones that can lead to skilled trade work and the ability to earn an immediate living wage. And for all of them---appropriate societal reparative work in the form of community service---cleaning graffiti, picking up trash. But in no event should violent teens just be part of a Catch & Release that sends them back to the homes and environments that produced the behavior. And for those teens who won't avail themselves of the structure/nurture options offered in juvenile detention, then adult prison may be the end result.

Anonymous wrote:


Releasing kids who have shown the wherewithal to find their ways to guns does seem like the strangest thing in the world. It says to me they have no place to hold them and obviously no one wants to foster them (nor would that be safer). We do need to start building juvenile facilities with proper wrap around services and accountability again.


Or charge them as adults and send them to prison.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It has been the trend the last ten to 15 years not to incarcerate juveniles. Many juvenile facilities have been closed since the juvenile incarceration rate has rapidly declined.

The number of incarcerated youth declined 77% from more than 108,000 in 2000 to about 25,000 in 2020, according to the data from the U.S. Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention.

There needs to be a system that isn't incarceration in juvenile jails and isn't released to your parents. There needs to be a medium option where maybe you go home at night with a monitoring system but during the day you go to a day treatment program and get counseling and mandatory schooling. Right now that 14 and 16 year olds are going to their junior high school and high school and bragging to their friends how nothing happened to them. If you are willing to hold up a stranger with a ghost gun, imagine how you act in a classroom and how disruptive you are to other students trying to learn.

I think any crime committed by a juvenile with a weapon is worthy of detention. I can see your point for other nonviolent offenses tho.

Releasing kids who have shown the wherewithal to find their ways to guns does seem like the strangest thing in the world. It says to me they have no place to hold them and obviously no one wants to foster them (nor would that be safer). We do need to start building juvenile facilities with proper wrap around services and accountability again.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It has been the trend the last ten to 15 years not to incarcerate juveniles. Many juvenile facilities have been closed since the juvenile incarceration rate has rapidly declined.

The number of incarcerated youth declined 77% from more than 108,000 in 2000 to about 25,000 in 2020, according to the data from the U.S. Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention.

There needs to be a system that isn't incarceration in juvenile jails and isn't released to your parents. There needs to be a medium option where maybe you go home at night with a monitoring system but during the day you go to a day treatment program and get counseling and mandatory schooling. Right now that 14 and 16 year olds are going to their junior high school and high school and bragging to their friends how nothing happened to them. If you are willing to hold up a stranger with a ghost gun, imagine how you act in a classroom and how disruptive you are to other students trying to learn.

I think any crime committed by a juvenile with a weapon is worthy of detention. I can see your point for other nonviolent offenses tho.

Anonymous wrote:It has been the trend the last ten to 15 years not to incarcerate juveniles. Many juvenile facilities have been closed since the juvenile incarceration rate has rapidly declined.

The number of incarcerated youth declined 77% from more than 108,000 in 2000 to about 25,000 in 2020, according to the data from the U.S. Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention.

There needs to be a system that isn't incarceration in juvenile jails and isn't released to your parents. There needs to be a medium option where maybe you go home at night with a monitoring system but during the day you go to a day treatment program and get counseling and mandatory schooling. Right now that 14 and 16 year olds are going to their junior high school and high school and bragging to their friends how nothing happened to them. If you are willing to hold up a stranger with a ghost gun, imagine how you act in a classroom and how disruptive you are to other students trying to learn.

Anonymous wrote:It has been the trend the last ten to 15 years not to incarcerate juveniles. Many juvenile facilities have been closed since the juvenile incarceration rate has rapidly declined.

The number of incarcerated youth declined 77% from more than 108,000 in 2000 to about 25,000 in 2020, according to the data from the U.S. Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention.

There needs to be a system that isn't incarceration in juvenile jails and isn't released to your parents. There needs to be a medium option where maybe you go home at night with a monitoring system but during the day you go to a day treatment program and get counseling and mandatory schooling. Right now that 14 and 16 year olds are going to their junior high school and high school and bragging to their friends how nothing happened to them. If you are willing to hold up a stranger with a ghost gun, imagine how you act in a classroom and how disruptive you are to other students trying to learn.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They need to go after the gun company that made the gun and sold it to a 14 year old without a background check.

It was a ghost gun. Did you miss that part in the article? Privately manufactured firearms is the politically correct term for ghost guns.

Anonymous wrote:They need to go after the gun company that made the gun and sold it to a 14 year old without a background check.

Anonymous wrote:They need to go after the gun company that made the gun and sold it to a 14 year old without a background check.