Anonymous
03/11/2024 11:51
Subject: I had a dream
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't the local soccer world be a better place if girls travel soccer was run exclusively by ECNL and boys travel soccer run exclusively soccer MLS?
(No GA, No Boys ECNL)
It would be nice if the ECNL would place current GA teams into their appropriate tier of ECNL (ECNL R?).
MLS needs a third tier below MLS Next (MLS R). The current boys ECNL clubs could vie for MLS next and MLS R spots.
It probably will never happen in my lifetime but one can always dream.
MLS already has a tier below MLS NEXT, it's NAL where the MLSN have their second teams play.
MLS and MLS Next have absolutely nothing to do with NAL
NAL is something created by a few clubs due to the ECNL rules regarding 2nd teams.
Well good to know, I thought it was an associated next tier since the local clubs with MLSN put their second teams there and still call those teams MLSN2.
Using MLSN2 is a marketing scam.
NAL=MLSN2
Fraud
Where is NAL on the MLS Next website?
Some MLS pro clubs call their 2nd level pro team "LA Galaxy II" or "Atlanta United 2" which translates to MLS Next Pro league not NAL.
False equivalency.
MLS Next Pro is a part of MLS structure and tier system
NAL is not.
LA Galaxy didn't name a team 'La Liga2'
I see what you're saying but we're talking about the same thing.
MLSN2 doesn't exist.
What the club is doing is trying to use the MLS Next brand name to sell NAL.
The honest way to sell this to parents would be Top Teams play in MLSN and 2nd teams play in NAL.
Anonymous
03/11/2024 11:43
Subject: I had a dream
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't the local soccer world be a better place if girls travel soccer was run exclusively by ECNL and boys travel soccer run exclusively soccer MLS?
(No GA, No Boys ECNL)
It would be nice if the ECNL would place current GA teams into their appropriate tier of ECNL (ECNL R?).
MLS needs a third tier below MLS Next (MLS R). The current boys ECNL clubs could vie for MLS next and MLS R spots.
It probably will never happen in my lifetime but one can always dream.
MLS already has a tier below MLS NEXT, it's NAL where the MLSN have their second teams play.
MLS and MLS Next have absolutely nothing to do with NAL
NAL is something created by a few clubs due to the ECNL rules regarding 2nd teams.
Well good to know, I thought it was an associated next tier since the local clubs with MLSN put their second teams there and still call those teams MLSN2.
Using MLSN2 is a marketing scam.
NAL=MLSN2
Fraud
Where is NAL on the MLS Next website?
Some MLS pro clubs call their 2nd level pro team "LA Galaxy II" or "Atlanta United 2" which translates to MLS Next Pro league not NAL.
False equivalency.
MLS Next Pro is a part of MLS structure and tier system
NAL is not.
LA Galaxy didn't name a team 'La Liga2'
Anonymous
03/11/2024 11:37
Subject: I had a dream
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't the local soccer world be a better place if girls travel soccer was run exclusively by ECNL and boys travel soccer run exclusively soccer MLS?
(No GA, No Boys ECNL)
It would be nice if the ECNL would place current GA teams into their appropriate tier of ECNL (ECNL R?).
MLS needs a third tier below MLS Next (MLS R). The current boys ECNL clubs could vie for MLS next and MLS R spots.
It probably will never happen in my lifetime but one can always dream.
MLS already has a tier below MLS NEXT, it's NAL where the MLSN have their second teams play.
MLS and MLS Next have absolutely nothing to do with NAL
NAL is something created by a few clubs due to the ECNL rules regarding 2nd teams.
Well good to know, I thought it was an associated next tier since the local clubs with MLSN put their second teams there and still call those teams MLSN2.
Using MLSN2 is a marketing scam.
NAL=MLSN2
Fraud
Where is NAL on the MLS Next website?
Why is this poster (or maybe more than one) so triggered by calling NAL teams "MLS Next 2"? Right, it's not affiliated with MLS Next as a league, but it is all the same clubs using it as a platform for their second teams. Don't you think "fraud" is a little strong? We get it, from common knowledge, and your incessant posting. Don't worry, no one is fooled. It's marketing. OK.
Because it's disingenuous and a deliberate attempt to lure unsuspecting parents. Because the clubs know many parents chase labels.
It's not just innocent naming.
Anonymous
03/11/2024 11:36
Subject: I had a dream
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't the local soccer world be a better place if girls travel soccer was run exclusively by ECNL and boys travel soccer run exclusively soccer MLS?
(No GA, No Boys ECNL)
It would be nice if the ECNL would place current GA teams into their appropriate tier of ECNL (ECNL R?).
MLS needs a third tier below MLS Next (MLS R). The current boys ECNL clubs could vie for MLS next and MLS R spots.
It probably will never happen in my lifetime but one can always dream.
MLS already has a tier below MLS NEXT, it's NAL where the MLSN have their second teams play.
MLS and MLS Next have absolutely nothing to do with NAL
NAL is something created by a few clubs due to the ECNL rules regarding 2nd teams.
Well good to know, I thought it was an associated next tier since the local clubs with MLSN put their second teams there and still call those teams MLSN2.
Using MLSN2 is a marketing scam.
NAL=MLSN2
Fraud
Where is NAL on the MLS Next website?
Some MLS pro clubs call their 2nd level pro team "LA Galaxy II" or "Atlanta United 2" which translates to MLS Next Pro league not NAL.
Anonymous
03/11/2024 11:33
Subject: I had a dream
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't the local soccer world be a better place if girls travel soccer was run exclusively by ECNL and boys travel soccer run exclusively soccer MLS?
(No GA, No Boys ECNL)
It would be nice if the ECNL would place current GA teams into their appropriate tier of ECNL (ECNL R?).
MLS needs a third tier below MLS Next (MLS R). The current boys ECNL clubs could vie for MLS next and MLS R spots.
It probably will never happen in my lifetime but one can always dream.
MLS already has a tier below MLS NEXT, it's NAL where the MLSN have their second teams play.
MLS and MLS Next have absolutely nothing to do with NAL
NAL is something created by a few clubs due to the ECNL rules regarding 2nd teams.
Well good to know, I thought it was an associated next tier since the local clubs with MLSN put their second teams there and still call those teams MLSN2.
Using MLSN2 is a marketing scam.
NAL=MLSN2
Fraud
Where is NAL on the MLS Next website?
Why is this poster (or maybe more than one) so triggered by calling NAL teams "MLS Next 2"? Right, it's not affiliated with MLS Next as a league, but it is all the same clubs using it as a platform for their second teams. Don't you think "fraud" is a little strong? We get it, from common knowledge, and your incessant posting. Don't worry, no one is fooled. It's marketing. OK.
Anonymous
03/11/2024 11:24
Subject: I had a dream
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't the local soccer world be a better place if girls travel soccer was run exclusively by ECNL and boys travel soccer run exclusively soccer MLS?
(No GA, No Boys ECNL)
It would be nice if the ECNL would place current GA teams into their appropriate tier of ECNL (ECNL R?).
MLS needs a third tier below MLS Next (MLS R). The current boys ECNL clubs could vie for MLS next and MLS R spots.
It probably will never happen in my lifetime but one can always dream.
MLS already has a tier below MLS NEXT, it's NAL where the MLSN have their second teams play.
MLS and MLS Next have absolutely nothing to do with NAL
NAL is something created by a few clubs due to the ECNL rules regarding 2nd teams.
Well good to know, I thought it was an associated next tier since the local clubs with MLSN put their second teams there and still call those teams MLSN2.
Using MLSN2 is a marketing scam.
NAL=MLSN2
Fraud
Where is NAL on the MLS Next website?
Anonymous
03/11/2024 11:03
Subject: I had a dream
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECNL overrated
Watered down in DMV area but not necessarily elsewhere
What people don't understand is that coaches docs players and clubs matter more than leagues. Especially in the younger ages.
Anonymous
03/11/2024 10:22
Subject: I had a dream
Anonymous wrote:ECNL overrated
Watered down in DMV area but not necessarily elsewhere
Anonymous
03/11/2024 10:06
Subject: I had a dream
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't the local soccer world be a better place if girls travel soccer was run exclusively by ECNL and boys travel soccer run exclusively soccer MLS?
(No GA, No Boys ECNL)
It would be nice if the ECNL would place current GA teams into their appropriate tier of ECNL (ECNL R?).
MLS needs a third tier below MLS Next (MLS R). The current boys ECNL clubs could vie for MLS next and MLS R spots.
It probably will never happen in my lifetime but one can always dream.
MLS already has a tier below MLS NEXT, it's NAL where the MLSN have their second teams play.
MLS and MLS Next have absolutely nothing to do with NAL
NAL is something created by a few clubs due to the ECNL rules regarding 2nd teams.
Well good to know, I thought it was an associated next tier since the local clubs with MLSN put their second teams there and still call those teams MLSN2.
Using MLSN2 is a marketing scam.
NAL=MLSN2
Anonymous
03/11/2024 10:05
Subject: Re:I had a dream
FXU could probably field a better MLSN next team than they could a boys ECNL team but they were created to form a good boys ECNL team and lost their SYC connection in the process.
Anonymous
03/11/2024 10:05
Subject: I had a dream
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't the local soccer world be a better place if girls travel soccer was run exclusively by ECNL and boys travel soccer run exclusively soccer MLS?
(No GA, No Boys ECNL)
It would be nice if the ECNL would place current GA teams into their appropriate tier of ECNL (ECNL R?).
MLS needs a third tier below MLS Next (MLS R). The current boys ECNL clubs could vie for MLS next and MLS R spots.
It probably will never happen in my lifetime but one can always dream.
MLS already has a tier below MLS NEXT, it's NAL where the MLSN have their second teams play.
MLS and MLS Next have absolutely nothing to do with NAL
NAL is something created by a few clubs due to the ECNL rules regarding 2nd teams.
Well good to know, I thought it was an associated next tier since the local clubs with MLSN put their second teams there and still call those teams MLSN2.
Using MLSN2 is a marketing scam.
Anonymous
03/11/2024 10:04
Subject: I had a dream
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't the local soccer world be a better place if girls travel soccer was run exclusively by ECNL and boys travel soccer run exclusively soccer MLS?
(No GA, No Boys ECNL)
It would be nice if the ECNL would place current GA teams into their appropriate tier of ECNL (ECNL R?).
MLS needs a third tier below MLS Next (MLS R). The current boys ECNL clubs could vie for MLS next and MLS R spots.
It probably will never happen in my lifetime but one can always dream.
MLS already has a tier below MLS NEXT, it's NAL where the MLSN have their second teams play.
MLS and MLS Next have absolutely nothing to do with NAL
NAL is something created by a few clubs due to the ECNL rules regarding 2nd teams.
Well good to know, I thought it was an associated next tier since the local clubs with MLSN put their second teams there and still call those teams MLSN2.
Does NAL have same level of travel as MLSN?
Yup. Same level of painstaking travel and expenses for 2nd, 3rd tier teams to play other 2nd, 3rd tier teams.
When they have dozens of local teams they can play.
Anonymous
03/11/2024 10:00
Subject: I had a dream
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't the local soccer world be a better place if girls travel soccer was run exclusively by ECNL and boys travel soccer run exclusively soccer MLS?
(No GA, No Boys ECNL)
It would be nice if the ECNL would place current GA teams into their appropriate tier of ECNL (ECNL R?).
MLS needs a third tier below MLS Next (MLS R). The current boys ECNL clubs could vie for MLS next and MLS R spots.
It probably will never happen in my lifetime but one can always dream.
MLS already has a tier below MLS NEXT, it's NAL where the MLSN have their second teams play.
MLS and MLS Next have absolutely nothing to do with NAL
NAL is something created by a few clubs due to the ECNL rules regarding 2nd teams.
Well good to know, I thought it was an associated next tier since the local clubs with MLSN put their second teams there and still call those teams MLSN2.
Does NAL have same level of travel as MLSN?
Anonymous
03/11/2024 09:56
Subject: I had a dream
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't the local soccer world be a better place if girls travel soccer was run exclusively by ECNL and boys travel soccer run exclusively soccer MLS?
(No GA, No Boys ECNL)
It would be nice if the ECNL would place current GA teams into their appropriate tier of ECNL (ECNL R?).
MLS needs a third tier below MLS Next (MLS R). The current boys ECNL clubs could vie for MLS next and MLS R spots.
It probably will never happen in my lifetime but one can always dream.
MLS already has a tier below MLS NEXT, it's NAL where the MLSN have their second teams play.
MLS and MLS Next have absolutely nothing to do with NAL
NAL is something created by a few clubs due to the ECNL rules regarding 2nd teams.
Well good to know, I thought it was an associated next tier since the local clubs with MLSN put their second teams there and still call those teams MLSN2.
Anonymous
03/11/2024 09:47
Subject: I had a dream
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't the local soccer world be a better place if girls travel soccer was run exclusively by ECNL and boys travel soccer run exclusively soccer MLS?
(No GA, No Boys ECNL)
It would be nice if the ECNL would place current GA teams into their appropriate tier of ECNL (ECNL R?).
MLS needs a third tier below MLS Next (MLS R). The current boys ECNL clubs could vie for MLS next and MLS R spots.
It probably will never happen in my lifetime but one can always dream.
MLS already has a tier below MLS NEXT, it's NAL where the MLSN have their second teams play.
MLSN and NAL are completely separate leagues. The reason MLSN clubs put their 2nd team in NAL is because ECNL won't allow clubs to make boys ECNL teams 2nd behind MLSN. Clubs that have done this in the past get girls ECNL taken away or boys ECNL taken away the following season.
Tell me again how ECNL is the "solution" and not the problem.
Purely from a business perspective what ECNL is doing is illegal. Imagine if Hulu ever discovered that you had Disney+ that they'd drop your subscription. Or imagine of you wanted Netflix (girls ECNL) you have to buy Hulu (boys ECNL).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tying_(commerce)#:~:text=Tying%20(informally%2C%20product%20tying),a%20different%20product%20or%20service.
No idea what's going on with the formatting.
The more you know about youth soccer and leagues the less you want to know.
It's confusing and stupid. The problem is many people don't care about the details, history, and background. They just go after what the internet knuckleheads view the "best" which they primarily define by wins.
Unfortunately for the kids going for wins over everything else rewards the early developers and hurts skills development for everyone because of defined positions.
There was an old commercial that said, "An educated consumer is our best customer"
This horrible pay-to-play environment filled with parents chasing after the Jones's and chasing labels and worthless medals/trophies is all because of the vast collective ignorance.
So there's no end in sight.
The few who know and care to learn will continue to develop the few quality players.
