I totally agree with all this. Should be a law against scalping. And a law against immediate resale on sites like stub hub.

Here is one of the problems. Last year I bought six tickets to a popular concert that sold out. I had a presale code. They were for my daughter and her friends. Turns out only 2 are going and I had 4 to sell (this was many months later). With a few clicks I put them on hub and they sold within a few days. I did make money. I could have made more if I waited. So easy.

Funny but I did try to sell at face value on next door but no one responded. I got nervous and went to stub hub.

So it isn’t all bots.

Yes, we have failed with Taylor swift and Olivia Rodrigo. And it stinks because it's not like the shows are sold out- the tix are all available on stubhub.

Some states do not allow tickets to be resold for more than their face value. I think this needs to be universal.

Anonymous wrote:Much better than waiting in line overnight to buy paper concert tickets back in the Stone Age.

The Rolling Stone age.

You're competing against AI bots that move at lightning speed to snap up those tickets. Totally sucks.

Much better than waiting in line overnight to buy paper concert tickets back in the Stone Age.

I bought some tickets today, I got lucky with the waiting room and got 100 levels. Sold out in 20 minutes. Luckily this act didn’t do verified fan presale code stuff or I would be out.

What bothers me is going in and not knowing the pricing levels beforehand. Really hard to gauge when you’re trying to buy quickly.

It’s all a racket like everything else these days

I agree OP
And the presale stuff annoys me too. Either I have the same code or credit card as the other thousands buying tickets or I don’t want the stupid credit card or cable account that entitles me to the presale.
I miss Tower Records lol.

One of the reasons we don’t even bother trying to get tickets anymore to concerts.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree, OP. We end up having to overpay on stubhub most times. It is really frustrating and I don’t know why the lines all start at 10am! Work day for many!

Except op isn’t working.

I mean, my job is flexible enough that I can make up the time later. But, if I have a meeting, I cannot do it.

OP here. If I'm leading the call I can't do it. But if I'm just a participant, I absolutely can. Today I never got out of the line before the concert sold out so I was just watching a wheel spin (this was a non Ticketmaster platform with a spinning wheel instead of the walking guy) during two calls while I was actively participating on the calls.

Anonymous wrote:I think bots buy the tickets as soon as they are released so that they can be resold for a profit.

Agree.

I don't necessarily think its hard than it used to be. I remember in high school mapping out which in person ticket master had the lowest chances of having a line and dividing up the locations between friends each going to one. If we were lucky one person would get tickets as only the first person in line at each location would get tickets. Sometimes people camped out all night.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I had a presale code today and I still didn't get through. Same with the last few concerts. It literally has become impossible to get tickets.

I'm working--on calls with ticket sale in the background. I'm sure some of you multi-task on Zoom calls too.

You can be put in a waiting room with a presale code. Despite applying for ALL sales of Taylor Swift tickets, I never got a code, ever. At least you got that.

I hate Ticketmaster. Surge pricing has gotten out of control and there is zero way to prevent bots. But Ticketmaster doesn't really want to prevent bots, because bots buy tickets, and then just RESELL those same tickets on Ticketmaster's secondary market as resale, so Ticketmaster gets paid TWICE.

It will take Congress to change it. Ticketmaster is laughing all the way to the bank.

I think bots buy the tickets as soon as they are released so that they can be resold for a profit.