If they send the invite after 5, I won't even see it until 9AM.

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Anonymous wrote:Please with this "are you corporate" BS... I worked during the era that everybody cut out at 2pm if it was 70 degrees to golf.

That’s only for executives not worker Gen Z bees

Not where I work … every biff and chad

Anonymous wrote:Employment offer letters and agreements have work hours, if you don't follow it you are over working your folks and should be paid over time

Interesting how in other thread professionals having to punch a time clock is considered outrageous but unless you punch out and in work hours are as needed. There is no hard start of day and end of day.

The mistake was saying the reason you couldn’t make the 8am mtg is because you wanted to go to the gym. Lots of people can’t make 8am appts due to school drop off.
That said, I would do an 8am meeting as a one off, but would ask for another time if they wanted this to be a standing meeting.

Employment offer letters and agreements have work hours, if you don't follow it you are over working your folks and should be paid over time

I live in the central time zone but most of my colleagues are East Coast, so this comes up regularly. If I can’t make it (school drop off, etc) I just say I can’t make it (no explanation usually). If I can make it, I often say “sure, I can get my partner to drop off that day” so it’s clearly not a regular thing.

Whether or not an 8am meeting is acceptable is depending upon the stated and implied expectations of the job and office environment. If employees normally show up at 7am, then, sure, an 8am meeting is reasonable (and a 4pm meeting probably wouldn't be). If they normally show up at 8:30, then it is not.

Obviously, there need to be exceptions for meetings with, say, customers in different time zones, but those should be planned out well in advance.

If the complainer here is accustomed to arriving at the office at 9am, and no one has ever suggested that there is anything wrong or unusual about that, then it seems reasonable for that person to consider 8am to be personal time and schedule (e.g.) a fitness activity for that time.

That said, as a general rule, I hate early or late meetings and also meetings scheduled on the same day (unless there is an urgent matter that needs to be addressed). Most of us like to have some buffer for our commute to work, and also some time at the start of the day to address any issues that occurred overnight and to plan activities for the rest of the day. Similarly, it is good to have some extra time at the end of the day to address any leftover issues before the end of the day.

Depends if you are work from home or not.

Anonymous wrote:The article is behind a paywall but I’ll say 8am meetings aren’t the norm at my Fortune 500 except among the most senior leaders. IME meetings at lower than c suite tend to run between 9am and 4pm, seemingly as an acknowledgment of the variability of beginning and end of day timeframes for employees.

Same here. Earlier than 9am is hard for me with school dropoff and I am open about that. When they are occasionally scheduled, people are apologetic and it's mtgs with very senior ppl on urgent matters. I try to make them work but only because it's uncommon.

I'm a retired CEO and I rarely, if ever, called for an 8am meeting. Quiet work time for me was 7:30-9am and 5-6:30pm. I also wouldn't have more than 4-5 meetings of 30-60 minutes because people tune out when it's much longer than that. With dual working couples, commute times etc asking people to be in the office at 8am more than rarely is unfair.

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Anonymous wrote:Gen X person who generally goes "above and beyond" (in the negative sense of historically not making waves and in my 20s would have been there at 7 if someone told me to).

I think: the calendar should have been blocked for a personal commitment in advance. Following that, "personal appointment" should have been the stated reason. All else ok

genx is boomer light and boomer boot licker

GenX was the generation which saw their parents go from stable employment to laid off and divorced. It was brutal. But then the boom of the 90s+ made later generations way more bold about dynamic job changing employment.

Anonymous wrote:Gen X person who generally goes "above and beyond" (in the negative sense of historically not making waves and in my 20s would have been there at 7 if someone told me to).

I think: the calendar should have been blocked for a personal commitment in advance. Following that, "personal appointment" should have been the stated reason. All else ok

genx is boomer light and boomer boot licker

Anonymous wrote:Please with this "are you corporate" BS... I worked during the era that everybody cut out at 2pm if it was 70 degrees to golf.

That’s only for executives not worker Gen Z bees

Please with this "are you corporate" BS... I worked during the era that everybody cut out at 2pm if it was 70 degrees to golf.

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Anonymous wrote:Meeting are 9-3 start times.

8 am or earlier and 4pm or later require checking for availability.

If you schedule at 5pm meeting with me I’ll be scheduling a 7am meeting with you.

Are you in corporate?

Contractor. IT Engineers

I work at 7am for coverage, night work, weekends. I get called for outages.

I can’t cover at 7 and be at 5pm meeting.

You can’t expect me to be flexible and take your frantic calls at 8 pm Friday and Sunday morning but not work with me on my workout schedule or drop off for my kids.