Anonymous
Post 02/27/2024 06:56     Subject: Average income for a 44 year old lawyer
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Anonymous wrote:How much would you say that an attorney working landlord and tenancy issues makes in this area?


Representing the landlords or the tenants?


Landlords, though I'd be curious for both sides.


NP and there is generally no money in representing tenants. If they can't pay their rent they can't afford a lawyer so if they qualify they use legal services. When I worked there starting salary was about $50K with small annual increases. There might be some money representing commercial tenants but that isn't what people consider landlord/tenant law.

LL side your best bet is getting an apartment complex to use you so you're doing batches of cases for them when you appear in court. Downside is you're not going to be paid a lot for each case. Many LL lawyers use paralegals to prepare all the paperwork (some better than others but most tenants are not represented so maybe it doesn't matter).


Thanks. I'm a small landlord and was quoted $250/hour for an attorney but had no clue how many hours iare typically billed (10 hours? 100?) per hearing.


It shouldn't be much as most of the work is just filling in forms with some third party costs for the process server. However, if you are their only case in that court that day travel time and time waiting for the case to be called can add up.

Larger LL get a better deal per case because the travel and waiting time is split among them.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2024 20:19     Subject: Average income for a 44 year old lawyer
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How much would you say that an attorney working landlord and tenancy issues makes in this area?


Representing the landlords or the tenants?


Landlords, though I'd be curious for both sides.


NP and there is generally no money in representing tenants. If they can't pay their rent they can't afford a lawyer so if they qualify they use legal services. When I worked there starting salary was about $50K with small annual increases. There might be some money representing commercial tenants but that isn't what people consider landlord/tenant law.

LL side your best bet is getting an apartment complex to use you so you're doing batches of cases for them when you appear in court. Downside is you're not going to be paid a lot for each case. Many LL lawyers use paralegals to prepare all the paperwork (some better than others but most tenants are not represented so maybe it doesn't matter).


Thanks. I'm a small landlord and was quoted $250/hour for an attorney but had no clue how many hours iare typically billed (10 hours? 100?) per hearing.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2024 09:58     Subject: Average income for a 44 year old lawyer
Look at this data. Law starting salary distribution is bimodal - two huge humps in the chart, for biglaw around 220K and about 60K for everyone else.

https://www.nalp.org/salarydistrib
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2024 08:02     Subject: Average income for a 44 year old lawyer
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How much would you say that an attorney working landlord and tenancy issues makes in this area?


Representing the landlords or the tenants?


Landlords, though I'd be curious for both sides.


NP and there is generally no money in representing tenants. If they can't pay their rent they can't afford a lawyer so if they qualify they use legal services. When I worked there starting salary was about $50K with small annual increases. There might be some money representing commercial tenants but that isn't what people consider landlord/tenant law.

LL side your best bet is getting an apartment complex to use you so you're doing batches of cases for them when you appear in court. Downside is you're not going to be paid a lot for each case. Many LL lawyers use paralegals to prepare all the paperwork (some better than others but most tenants are not represented so maybe it doesn't matter).
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2024 20:52     Subject: Average income for a 44 year old lawyer
I signed up for a civil service list and got a canvass letter for a Couny attorney job paying 33k. This was a year or two ago! I also know a woman with decades of experience making 50k (ten years ago when she had been barred for 30 years, and she still works there and I doubt makes more than 60) doing tenant advocacy. And this is all in a NYC suburb in Long Island with the second highest property taxes in the country.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2024 20:52     Subject: Average income for a 44 year old lawyer
Did this person give details? Does she have huge debt? So many of these people who tell their stories on social media don't give the details. I am guessing this person is saddled with debt and got a cr*ppy job, or just low paying.

So many people are clueless about how to live financially responsible lives. I was one of them, but learned real quick.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2024 19:34     Subject: Average income for a 44 year old lawyer
Anonymous wrote:Attorney salaries are all over the place from $30,000 yearly and up.

Don’t tell her she’s not good at her job because you don’t even know her.


Bullshit. Show me an attorney job paying $30K a year. That’s $15 an hour – Target will pay you more than that as long as you can stock shelves and prove you’re not addicted to heroin.

Not an attorney so have no vested interest either way. But $30K for a lawyer is absurd.
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2024 19:31     Subject: Average income for a 44 year old lawyer
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Anonymous wrote:Average income for someone who is 44year old and been a lawyer for 10+ years. Saw a post on either Insta or Twitter saying she can't afford a $1800 one bedroom apartment. I was going to respond with a comment saying maybe you not good at your job....
But is it possible for a lawyer who has been practicing for 10 years in a high price one bed apartment not to afford it? I make 60k, and I am able to afford it..... so if the post is not fake is it just a bad lawyer?


She probably has a lot of law school debt.

10 years out of law schools I was making probably $120-130k as a fed attorney. I don’t think she’s a bad lawyer, just not in big law probably.


I hope the post appears again, I think it was troll post, but 120k is still enough to afford a 1bed room apartment. It way more than any teacher with BS degree with ever make as of today in FCPS. or maybe after 30+ years


Depends on what other debt/expenses she has. $120k could easily get eaten up by the slog to pay off law school, medical costs, any dependents (those of us in our 40s not infrequently end up supporting our parents even if we don’t have kids of our own).
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2024 19:20     Subject: Average income for a 44 year old lawyer
Anonymous wrote:She could work at a nonprofit and be making $25k or $45k.

I worked at a law firm right out of law school (which, by the way, was Yale) and then went to a nonprofit where I made $45k. I was very good at my job.


Why did you opt to do so and how long did you remain? How did you survive?
Anonymous
Post 02/25/2024 19:18     Subject: Average income for a 44 year old lawyer
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How much would you say that an attorney working landlord and tenancy issues makes in this area?


Representing the landlords or the tenants?


Landlords, though I'd be curious for both sides.