Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 09:49     Subject: Coworker with poor eye contact
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people make such a big deal over eye contact? There are so many reasons why many people do not make eye contact.


Poor eye contact followed by ignoring someone's greeting is considered rude. I don't make the rules. If it happened every once in a while whatever but it's a regular thing. I'm sure she doesn't do this with managers because she knows it's rude.


You literally did make up a rule right now. You can't control other people's rules, but you can choose not to be offended by this harmless behavior. Try it, you might like it.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 08:29     Subject: Coworker with poor eye contact
Some people have bad eyes, like their eyes do not go to the direction where they are looking at. It's Ocular myasthenia gravis.
You do what is comfortable to you OP.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 08:08     Subject: Coworker with poor eye contact
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I think you know the answer. Some people find making eye contact really, really uncomfortable. Just assume this colleague has some kind of autism spectrum disorder and respond as graciously as you can.

Social skills are a real gift, but not everyone was given that gift.


Op here. I have seen her in other settings and she is able to greet people and make eye contact. The ironic thing is our clients have intellectual disabilities and these are social skills we help them with. All the clients are able to return a hi and have pretty good eye contact as well.


So again, your concern is what?


I’m curious too.

Some people seem to just expect others to “just know” social skills and assume that those who don’t have them are “rude.”

When, really they aren’t willing to think and communicate their needs and expectations.

Again, OP. What is making you uncomfortable and what might others ways your coworker can offer assurances

Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 08:05     Subject: Coworker with poor eye contact

Considering the way you insist on here that she should be making eye contact with YOU...

... I'm going to guess that this person is probably not comfortable around you. It's personal, because your personalities don't match. She is probably on the spectrum and able to overcome that discomfort when around other people she finds more congenial, but YOU? From the way you respond, I wouldn't necessarily want to be around you either.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 08:01     Subject: Re:Coworker with poor eye contact
Anonymous wrote:Get used to it. I teach kindergarten and lots of kids don't know how to make eye contact. I think years of tech use during their first five years has scrambled their brains. In addition to the inability to make eye contact, they have trouble listening to others, near constant interruptions, inability to focus on anything for more than a minute or two, etc. Basically, we have 2 yr olds in kindergarten. I don't think this will be getting any better.


This is screens and also a parenting fail. Parents are afraid to make kids sit for meals, sustain uncomfortable situations, and do things that are “inauthentic” like make eye contact, say hello, and other manners. They model it for them and think that’s enough. It’s not.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 07:59     Subject: Coworker with poor eye contact
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I think you know the answer. Some people find making eye contact really, really uncomfortable. Just assume this colleague has some kind of autism spectrum disorder and respond as graciously as you can.

Social skills are a real gift, but not everyone was given that gift.


Op here. I have seen her in other settings and she is able to greet people and make eye contact. The ironic thing is our clients have intellectual disabilities and these are social skills we help them with. All the clients are able to return a hi and have pretty good eye contact as well.


So again, your concern is what?
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 07:45     Subject: Coworker with poor eye contact
Are you her boss? If not, let it go.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 07:31     Subject: Coworker with poor eye contact
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people make such a big deal over eye contact? There are so many reasons why many people do not make eye contact.


Poor eye contact followed by ignoring someone's greeting is considered rude. I don't make the rules. If it happened every once in a while whatever but it's a regular thing. I'm sure she doesn't do this with managers because she knows it's rude.


In some cultures sustained eye contact is rude and aggressive.


Op here. We are in the US and she's American.


+1.. pp’s point is irrelevant
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 07:31     Subject: Re:Coworker with poor eye contact
Op is this affecting your or her work product in any way? If not, just learn to accept that she is extremely rude and move on. I would keep saying hi like a normal person, be better than her.
Anonymous
Post 02/20/2024 05:14     Subject: Coworker with poor eye contact
Anonymous wrote:OP, I think you know the answer. Some people find making eye contact really, really uncomfortable. Just assume this colleague has some kind of autism spectrum disorder and respond as graciously as you can.

Social skills are a real gift, but not everyone was given that gift.


Op here. I have seen her in other settings and she is able to greet people and make eye contact. The ironic thing is our clients have intellectual disabilities and these are social skills we help them with. All the clients are able to return a hi and have pretty good eye contact as well.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2024 18:35     Subject: Coworker with poor eye contact
OP, I think you know the answer. Some people find making eye contact really, really uncomfortable. Just assume this colleague has some kind of autism spectrum disorder and respond as graciously as you can.

Social skills are a real gift, but not everyone was given that gift.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2024 18:11     Subject: Coworker with poor eye contact
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people make such a big deal over eye contact? There are so many reasons why many people do not make eye contact.


Poor eye contact followed by ignoring someone's greeting is considered rude. I don't make the rules. If it happened every once in a while whatever but it's a regular thing. I'm sure she doesn't do this with managers because she knows it's rude.


In some cultures sustained eye contact is rude and aggressive.


Op here. We are in the US and she's American.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2024 13:01     Subject: Coworker with poor eye contact
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do people make such a big deal over eye contact? There are so many reasons why many people do not make eye contact.


Poor eye contact followed by ignoring someone's greeting is considered rude. I don't make the rules. If it happened every once in a while whatever but it's a regular thing. I'm sure she doesn't do this with managers because she knows it's rude.


In some cultures sustained eye contact is rude and aggressive.
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2024 12:52     Subject: Coworker with poor eye contact
What is your concern, OP?
Anonymous
Post 02/19/2024 12:47     Subject: Coworker with poor eye contact
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is often seen with autism. It can still be learned though, just doesn’t come as naturally.

I’m not autistic but I’m introverted. I find caring professions like nursing really really exhausting. It would be hard if it doesn’t match your personality. I don’t get why some professions have made themselves so chatty because I think it’s turning people away from wanting to work there.


Op here. I don't know what this means. I'm not asking her to chit-chat. I am the only person at work so when she comes to relieve me after 15 hours it's a big deal. If it were a regular office then the expectation might not be there.


I understand, OP, but it really is out of your control and probably has nothing to do with you (spectrum). You just give her the info on the patient and go home.