lol, okay

Two are not really related.

Anonymous wrote:Middlebury's ED acceptance rate is 39%.
Wesleyan's ED acceptance rate is 41%
Barnard's ED acceptance rate is 25%
WashU's ED acceptance rate is 26%
BU's ED acceptance rate is 27%
BC's ED acceptance rate is 30%
Williams' ED acceptance rate is 27%

The list goes on and on and on.

athletes as a percentage of class composition.
Wesleyan 24%
Barnard --
WashU 8%
BU 3%
BC 5%
Williams 39%

I think you can sus out ED is most helpful for non-athletes at WashU, Barnard, BU, BC .. not so much Wesleyan or Williams

This is case by case stuff

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Anonymous wrote:Roughly what percent of incoming class could be ED? If it's high, like over 50%, it's would mean not all are athletic recruits, but affluent and average GPA kids?

Athletic recruits do not make up the majority of ED acceptances, most are full pay.

"According to X Factor Admissions, NCAA athletes generally represent less than 5% of the total undergraduate student body at highly selective colleges. "

That’s a weird cite for this conversation. At least at the small LACs, they make up a huge chunk of ED admissions (and student bodies overall). Most big state schools where athletes make up much smaller portions of the student bodies don’t have ED, so that NCAA stat is basically meaningless in an ED conversation.

And, yes, they are full pay, as are many/most ED applicants.

+1 Particularly true at D1 schools. PP has no clue.

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Anonymous wrote:Roughly what percent of incoming class could be ED? If it's high, like over 50%, it's would mean not all are athletic recruits, but affluent and average GPA kids?

Athletic recruits do not make up the majority of ED acceptances, most are full pay.

"According to X Factor Admissions, NCAA athletes generally represent less than 5% of the total undergraduate student body at highly selective colleges. "

That’s a weird cite for this conversation. At least at the small LACs, they make up a huge chunk of ED admissions (and student bodies overall). Most big state schools where athletes make up much smaller portions of the student bodies don’t have ED, so that NCAA stat is basically meaningless in an ED conversation.

And, yes, they are full pay, as are many/most ED applicants.

Anonymous wrote:Roughly what percent of incoming class could be ED? If it's high, like over 50%, it's would mean not all are athletic recruits, but affluent and average GPA kids?

Athletic recruits do not make up the majority of ED acceptances, most are full pay.

"According to X Factor Admissions, NCAA athletes generally represent less than 5% of the total undergraduate student body at highly selective colleges. "

You can get an excellent education at many, many colleges. I can’t believe you are questioning the quality of the education of highly regarded institutions based on ED acceptance rates. I got a stellar education at a small liberal arts college that probably wouldn’t be considered prestigious enough by you, OP, and do not believe I would have had a better education at any Ivy. Good enough to prepare me for top law school in the country and was accepted everywhere I applied.

Anonymous wrote:Roughly what percent of incoming class could be ED? If it's high, like over 50%, it's would mean not all are athletic recruits, but affluent and average GPA kids?

Depends on the size of the school and the sports program.

Chicago has a notoriously high percent of the class admitted via ED but still has a 790 average math SAT. Not sure ED rate aligns to quality of admitted students, at least vis a vis the usual metrics. Agree that there is a lot wrong with ED but I’m not sure it is the way to get a sense of quality of either the institution or the student body.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you’ve mistakenly included Amherst here. Amherst has been up front in saying that there is no advantage to applying ED and any perceived advantage is due to the recruited athletes that are accepted early.

Grinnell’s ED rate for the most recent class dropped to 34 percent. The school awards an automatic $20k in merit aid to every ED admitted applicant, which is a very smart thing for a wealthy college to do and confirms that they’re not being generous in ED admissions to fill the class with underqualified full pay students.

Interesting to see Dartmouth and Columbia on that list. Whoa Tulane.

Anonymous wrote:I think you’ve mistakenly included Amherst here. Amherst has been up front in saying that there is no advantage to applying ED and any perceived advantage is due to the recruited athletes that are accepted early.

Anonymous wrote:The ED acceptance rate isn’t an exact indicator of quality. It’s just a way of ensuring a critical mass of their students really want to be there instead of somewhere else.

AKA yield protection

Anonymous wrote:Cue the Tulane 68% ED rate discussion 😊

Tulane’s ED rate for 2022-2023 was 31%. New admissions director. The 68% is from previous years.

Roughly what percent of incoming class could be ED? If it's high, like over 50%, it's would mean not all are athletic recruits, but affluent and average GPA kids?