Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 17:51     Subject: Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
Anonymous wrote:Clearly can arrest and prosecute the problem away. Vast majority of criminals have long arrest records because of the current catch and release crime policies.

Sorry but some people need to be keep seperate from society. Prisons provide jobs for communities and if we need to build more so be it.



Yes it won't prevent 100% of crimes but it will prevent repeat offenders. Obviously.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 17:46     Subject: Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
Anonymous wrote:People jumping straight to El Salvador and Giuliani are playing right into this guy's hands. The options aren't stop and frisk and desaparecidos or "guess it's my turn to get carjacked by 13 year olds at gunpoint! Fair is fair!"

We don't need to violate the Constitution to paper arrests. The problem in DC is not that people aren't willing to "break a few eggs" by rounding up innocent people. The problem is that guilty people - people caught mid-crime IN THE STOLEN CAR - are not getting their arrests papered. We don't need to round up innocent people to intimidate criminals, we just need to actually enforce the laws on the books. Even if it's a teenager, even if it's a poor person. If you have an illegal gun, you should go to jail. If you steal a car, you should go to jail. Not everyone who looks like you, just you. Every time.


And we need Norwegian style rehabilitative jails, and economic opportunity and clean, healthy environments for people in poverty. We can't police and arrest our way out of that.

When the jailers are as criminal as the jailed, you can't police as arrest your way out of that.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 17:26     Subject: Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
Once again, violence interrupters is about $$$ for service which was started by a wife beater. This is a fact.

These jobs are at $70,000 a pop and have resulted in what?

Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 16:25     Subject: Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
Agree that is a practice we need to restore, OP. Even the violence interrupter programs say that without prosecutions/a stick, they have little leverage to encourage change.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 16:21     Subject: Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
People jumping straight to El Salvador and Giuliani are playing right into this guy's hands. The options aren't stop and frisk and desaparecidos or "guess it's my turn to get carjacked by 13 year olds at gunpoint! Fair is fair!"

We don't need to violate the Constitution to paper arrests. The problem in DC is not that people aren't willing to "break a few eggs" by rounding up innocent people. The problem is that guilty people - people caught mid-crime IN THE STOLEN CAR - are not getting their arrests papered. We don't need to round up innocent people to intimidate criminals, we just need to actually enforce the laws on the books. Even if it's a teenager, even if it's a poor person. If you have an illegal gun, you should go to jail. If you steal a car, you should go to jail. Not everyone who looks like you, just you. Every time.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 16:16     Subject: Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
Anonymous wrote:

Disagree. It’s completely possible. Ask anyone who grew up in or around NYC in the late 1980’s. NYC was a total sewer. Really not that far off from the movie Warriors. Giuliani (before he went insane) was elected in 1994 and cleaned up the city. It was an amazing renaissance. NYC was amazing in the late 1990s.


Yeah, illegally arresting tons of black and brown people in NYC really cleaned up the city. Great job, Rudy!
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 15:19     Subject: Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
Anonymous wrote:If he means that cracking down, papering every arrest, and locking people up in large numbers will not decrease crime in DC, then he is clearly incorrect. If he means that the political will is lacking in DC to do any of those things, then he is correct.


This post is brutal in its accuracy.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 15:03     Subject: Re:Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes you can, look at El Salvador after their mass incarceration campaign to break the back of gangs. Their country has improved dramatically:




When you lockup criminals, crime goes down. Really common sense logic.


No due process and many innocent people swept up in and jailed. I don’t think this is the model we want to follow.


Don’t be so sure.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 14:56     Subject: Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
He's just lazy. About 90% of violent crime is committed by 5%. You can surely lock up five percent.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 13:05     Subject: Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
I don’t care. Not any longer.

#recallallen first

Then we negotiate
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 12:26     Subject: Re:Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes you can, look at El Salvador after their mass incarceration campaign to break the back of gangs. Their country has improved dramatically:




When you lockup criminals, crime goes down. Really common sense logic.


No due process and many innocent people swept up in and jailed. I don’t think this is the model we want to follow.


To make an omelette you have to crack eggs, I am ok with this , DC has more bad than good


Spoken like someone who feels confident that they will not be subjected to such an experience. Do you really think that the innocent victims of your egg-cracking campaign will just roll over and take the abuse? I have news for you..
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 12:22     Subject: Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
Anonymous wrote:This is all a distraction. Attorneys act on laws. The Council legislates.

#recallallen


Do they? If you are talking about the DC USAO? Are they doing their job at all?
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 12:19     Subject: Re:Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes you can, look at El Salvador after their mass incarceration campaign to break the back of gangs. Their country has improved dramatically:




When you lockup criminals, crime goes down. Really common sense logic.


No due process and many innocent people swept up in and jailed. I don’t think this is the model we want to follow.


You said the exact same thing back when Giuliani’s reforms made NYC safe, and saved all those lives (primarily the lives of underprivileged Black and POC men, who would otherwise be dead).

Today in DC, all the innocent residents are victimized by criminals who face no consequences.


This!
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 12:15     Subject: Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
This is all a distraction. Attorneys act on laws. The Council legislates.

#recallallen
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 12:14     Subject: Re:Crime: “We cannot arrest and prosecute our way out of it.”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes you can, look at El Salvador after their mass incarceration campaign to break the back of gangs. Their country has improved dramatically:




When you lockup criminals, crime goes down. Really common sense logic.


No due process and many innocent people swept up in and jailed. I don’t think this is the model we want to follow.


You said the exact same thing back when Giuliani’s reforms made NYC safe, and saved all those lives (primarily the lives of underprivileged Black and POC men, who would otherwise be dead).

Today in DC, all the innocent residents are victimized by criminals who face no consequences.