Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 20:13     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
Anonymous wrote:Notre Dane must have lost a substantial amount of their endowment. I seem to recall they were close to 20 billion a while ago.


I doubt it. There are news stories that include all funds under management, not just endowment. Universities keep additional funds for accounts payable, etc. that are not endowment. The endowment study from NACUBO includes only long-term endowments.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 20:08     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Endowment per student is a more valuable metric. And what undergrads get from a big endowment is different at, say, Grinnell vs Harvard vs UT.


I keep hearing this on this board. Is there any study backing up the assertion?


If there were, they probably don’t take in many different examples where have a larger endowment is important. For example, new buildings and rehabs are an expensive undertaking. A larger endowment is going to go a lot farther in this case than a smaller one no matter how many students are on campus/enrolled.


Well, I would think the physical plant is probably a lot larger at Michigan with 50K students than at Amherst with 2K students.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 20:08     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
The WSJ had an article about this today, and they found Baylor University's endowment had the second highest rate of return, after Brown.

https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/the-small-university-endowment-that-is-beating-the-ivy-leagues-8ce37cf1?st=7s9140dgzgwyrs4&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 20:06     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Endowment per student is a more valuable metric. And what undergrads get from a big endowment is different at, say, Grinnell vs Harvard vs UT.


I keep hearing this on this board. Is there any study backing up the assertion?


Let me see. Will I have more disposable income from savings if I am a millionaire and single or if I share a million dollars with a million people?
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 20:03     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
Notre Dane must have lost a substantial amount of their endowment. I seem to recall they were close to 20 billion a while ago.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 19:59     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
It's important, UChicago said they have to go on a hiring freeze due to budget issues. So a decrease in endowment could be costly for these schools especially during times of high interest.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 19:58     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Endowment per student is a more valuable metric. And what undergrads get from a big endowment is different at, say, Grinnell vs Harvard vs UT.


I keep hearing this on this board. Is there any study backing up the assertion?


If there were, they probably don’t take in many different examples where have a larger endowment is important. For example, new buildings and rehabs are an expensive undertaking. A larger endowment is going to go a lot farther in this case than a smaller one no matter how many students are on campus/enrolled.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 19:38     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Endowment per student is a more valuable metric. And what undergrads get from a big endowment is different at, say, Grinnell vs Harvard vs UT.


I keep hearing this on this board. Is there any study backing up the assertion?


I hope you are joking otherwise common sense has left the building.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 19:10     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
Anonymous wrote:Endowment per student is a more valuable metric. And what undergrads get from a big endowment is different at, say, Grinnell vs Harvard vs UT.


I keep hearing this on this board. Is there any study backing up the assertion?
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 18:31     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
Anonymous wrote:Look how high Texas and Texas A&M are, podner.


They share 2 million acres in West Texas with huge oil and gas production and reserves, along with other mineral rights. The surface is also among the best for solar and wind energy. The Permian Basin oil field is now the world's most productive. It moved ahead of Saudi Arabia's Ghawar field.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 18:25     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1. Harvard - 49.5B
2.UT System- 44.9B
3.Yale-40.7B
4. Stanford- 36.5B
5. Princeton-34B
6. MIT-23.4B
7. UPenn- 20.9B
8. Texas A&M system- 19.2B
9. UMich- 17.8B
10. UC system- 17.7B
11. Notre Dame- 16.6B
12. Northwestern- 13.7B
13. Columbia- 13.6B
14. Duke-13.2B
15. WashU- 11.5B
16. Johns Hopkins- 10.5B
17. Emory- 10.2B
18. Cornell- 10B
19. U Chicago-9.9B
20.UVa- 9.8B
21.Vandy- 9.7B
22. Dartmouth- 7.9B
23. USC- 7.5B
24. Ohio State- 7.3B
25.Rice- 7.2B

Biggest gainers Johns Hopkins ( 24.7% ) and UC System ( 14.7%). Biggest declines WashU (-6.4%) and Vandy (-5.1%).
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/business/financial-health/2024/02/15/college-endowment-returns-ticked-fiscal-year-2023


Thanks for posting this OP.
So, for top endowment schools, is there any point of commonality between them? Like, Is there anything that can be said regarding the student experience?
For example, are they all Need Blind (I know the answer is yes from the handful that my DC applied to, haven't checked all of them)?
Do they all have ...investments in new buildings, athletic facilities, upgrades, nice campuses, funding for programs / student-initiated clubs?
Give more merit away?



The bulk of endowment money has a restricted purpose, meaning the donor specified a use for the funds. This can include the medical school or specific medical research, law school, MBA program, athletic team, etc. The endowment may not directly benefit any students, and it may be restricted to only those students in that program.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 18:21     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It would be interesting to know what portion of these endowments are specifically in the med schools of those universities that have them.


Whatever. You’re just trying to write these schools off.

Many don’t have med schools.


Out of 25, I believe only Princeton, MIT, Notre Dame, and Rice do not have medical schools. And Rice has a research collaboration arm with the Texas Medical Center, the world's largest medical district, which is just across the street.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 18:13     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look how high Texas and Texas A&M are, podner.


Energy and oil $$!


Well, the UT system is 8 universities and 5 medical centers--the endowment is split up among them.


Only UT Austin gets the bulk of it, earmarked for "Excellence". Texas A&M is similar.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 16:55     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Look how high Texas and Texas A&M are, podner.


Energy and oil $$!


Well, the UT system is 8 universities and 5 medical centers--the endowment is split up among them.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2024 16:05     Subject: Endowment rankings 2023
I find these interesting. There is also a post from September on the inside higher ed site with endowments per student. The top 10 schools are (in order) Princeton, Yale, Stanford, MIT, Harvard, Amherst, Swarthmore, Williams, Pomona and Caltech. I think this is also an interesting metric as it pulls in the SLACs and is indicative of the resources devoted to undergrads.