Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 18:58     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want to go to law school or med school then go to undergrad at your state flagship for Christ sake.


Says the person not from VA


If you're from VA and can't get into UVA then go to WVU for the same price or lower.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 17:15     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you want to go to law school or med school then go to undergrad at your state flagship for Christ sake.


Says the person not from VA



I don't understand your comment. My DC went to UVA and is now at my alma mater harvard law
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 17:10     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
Anonymous wrote:If you want to go to law school or med school then go to undergrad at your state flagship for Christ sake.


Says the person not from VA
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 17:02     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
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Anonymous wrote:If you want to go to law school or med school then go to undergrad at your state flagship for Christ sake.



no need to swear. especially during lent. But go ahead an be crude.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 16:57     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
If you want to go to law school or med school then go to undergrad at your state flagship for Christ sake.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 16:49     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trust me folks. For a happy pre-med path, do not go to the best (most competitive) schools that accept you for undergrad. Grade deflation is real. Med School AOs may allow a small discount for top undergrad programs but this will not make things up for most kids. I have two DCs in med school. One Princeton undergrad and another from a T50. Both in about the same place now wrt med school. Princeton grad is in therapy from all the stress.



This same advice goes for Law School - Save your money, ace your grades - you need Summa, Phi Beta Kappa and super high LSAT scores to get in the top 14....undergrad does not matter.


Not summa. Many schools like UVA no longer have Latin designations nor eve phi beta kappa. So it becomes (for law school) a battle of GPA, LSAT score and the other junk like URM and before you say "not true", I can prove it for harvard law (where i went) and others that they do indeed look at URM and the other skin color issues for law school admissions. it is what it is currently.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 16:45     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
Anonymous wrote:Trust me folks. For a happy pre-med path, do not go to the best (most competitive) schools that accept you for undergrad. Grade deflation is real. Med School AOs may allow a small discount for top undergrad programs but this will not make things up for most kids. I have two DCs in med school. One Princeton undergrad and another from a T50. Both in about the same place now wrt med school. Princeton grad is in therapy from all the stress.



This same advice goes for Law School - Save your money, ace your grades - you need Summa, Phi Beta Kappa and super high LSAT scores to get in the top 14....undergrad does not matter.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 16:43     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
Anonymous wrote:Purdue has very harsh grading in STEM fields. Not deflation necessarily but a curve is needed so that over half of the class does not fail. For example, the average on this semester’s first physics exam was in the 40s. And these are bright kids taking these exams. Average on my son’s Calc 3 (Multivariable calc) final last semester - again in the 40s.


Would this apply to the prerequisite courses for med school, or more for engineering and computer science majors?
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 16:42     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trust me folks. For a happy pre-med path, do not go to the best (most competitive) schools that accept you for undergrad. Grade deflation is real. Med School AOs may allow a small discount for top undergrad programs but this will not make things up for most kids. I have two DCs in med school. One Princeton undergrad and another from a T50. Both in about the same place now wrt med school. Princeton grad is in therapy from all the stress.


Grade inflation is real at every selective college in the U.S.

https://gradeinflation.com/


It is a great site, but with data that is now more than ten years old. I wish it was updated.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 16:40     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
Anonymous wrote:Trust me folks. For a happy pre-med path, do not go to the best (most competitive) schools that accept you for undergrad. Grade deflation is real. Med School AOs may allow a small discount for top undergrad programs but this will not make things up for most kids. I have two DCs in med school. One Princeton undergrad and another from a T50. Both in about the same place now wrt med school. Princeton grad is in therapy from all the stress.


Yeah, you want the honors programs at places like Drew, SMCM, Towson and SJU for pre-med.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 16:39     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
Anonymous wrote:It's a fairly big con for Boston U for my student. I'm not sure I disagree with that. If you want to go to grad school, it might be a lot harder.


What is the average all-university GPA at BU?
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 16:37     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
Anonymous wrote:Purdue has very harsh grading in STEM fields. Not deflation necessarily but a curve is needed so that over half of the class does not fail. For example, the average on this semester’s first physics exam was in the 40s. And these are bright kids taking these exams. Average on my son’s Calc 3 (Multivariable calc) final last semester - again in the 40s.


It’s like this at a lot of STEM schools. Lehigh is the same with grade deflation in engineering and a bit in other courses too. They value rigor.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 15:23     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trust me folks. For a happy pre-med path, do not go to the best (most competitive) schools that accept you for undergrad. Grade deflation is real. Med School AOs may allow a small discount for top undergrad programs but this will not make things up for most kids. I have two DCs in med school. One Princeton undergrad and another from a T50. Both in about the same place now wrt med school. Princeton grad is in therapy from all the stress.


Grade inflation is real at every selective college in the U.S.

https://gradeinflation.com/


"Every selective college" is not listed on this chart.
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 15:21     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
Anonymous wrote:Trust me folks. For a happy pre-med path, do not go to the best (most competitive) schools that accept you for undergrad. Grade deflation is real. Med School AOs may allow a small discount for top undergrad programs but this will not make things up for most kids. I have two DCs in med school. One Princeton undergrad and another from a T50. Both in about the same place now wrt med school. Princeton grad is in therapy from all the stress.


Grade inflation is real at every selective college in the U.S.

https://gradeinflation.com/
Anonymous
Post 02/16/2024 11:53     Subject: Students at colleges with grade deflation and grad admissions
Anonymous wrote:Top graduate programs know what the median GPA is at most schools as well as the 25th and 75th.

While Harvard has grade inflation, it's worth mentioning that Harvard has grade cutoffs for various latin honors and those are restricted to certain percentages of the class, and those tell you a lot, and every top grad program is familiar with them. For example, in order to get Summa you must be in the top 5% of gpas in the class, in addition to other requirements.



Yeah, but so what? Lots of schools like UVA don’t have Latin honors