Anonymous wrote:Wants to do financial engineering but doesn't like math or wall street? Has he thought this through?

This thread is not at all about what the kid wants to do. He probably has no idea. This is all about what mom thinks he should do. 🙄

That's from the students they attract more than the value added by the school. They didn't adjust for incoming student merit metrics in any way.

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Anonymous wrote:My sophomore is really into crypto, complex algorithms, etc. he spends lots of time researching and tracking these things and I think he would enjoy a college where he can dig into this more with like-minded professors and students. He is a good student and will likely test well but I am looking for ideas of schools to look at for him outside the Wharton/ MIT/Stanford type places that are a lottery for anyone. We are in VA if that matters but willing to look anywhere.

FWIW, the Wall STreet Journal named UVA top public undergrad for finance last year.

WSJ reported salary premium for graduates working in finance and not an actual ranking, but I still get your point. There are other publics that are quite close. Keep in mind that there are many private schools that do better than any public in finance salaries. Only OP can factor cost.

Public in Finance

COLLEGE ANNUAL SALARY PREMIUM
University of Virginia-Main Campus $19,676
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor $18,818
Binghamton University $18,268
University of California-Berkeley $18,040
William & Mary $15,559
CUNY Bernard M Baruch College $14,416
Rutgers University-New Brunswick $14,386
Stony Brook University $11,414
University of California-Los Angeles $10,653
SUNY at Albany $10,479
University of Utah $10,296
Georgia Institute of Technology-Main Campus $9,688
University of Texas at Austin $8,969
University of Delaware $8,521
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign $8,426
University of Connecticut $6,725
University of Maryland-College Park $6,711
Indiana University-Bloomington $6,212
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill $5,788
University of Colorado Boulder $5,500

Private in Finance

COLLEGE ANNUAL SALARY PREMIUM
Massachusetts Institute of Technology $48,051
Harvard University $39,879
Princeton University $39,094
University of Pennsylvania $39,092
Dartmouth College $37,768
Yale University $34,148
Columbia University in the City of New York $33,354
Duke University $32,568
Middlebury College $32,326
University of Chicago $31,833
Stanford University $31,230
Bowdoin College $31,218
Georgetown University $30,900
Swarthmore College $30,634
Cornell University $29,810
New York University $29,469
Williams College $29,046
Wellesley College $27,984
Johns Hopkins University $27,765
Northwestern University $26,786

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Anonymous wrote:My sophomore is really into crypto, complex algorithms, etc. he spends lots of time researching and tracking these things and I think he would enjoy a college where he can dig into this more with like-minded professors and students. He is a good student and will likely test well but I am looking for ideas of schools to look at for him outside the Wharton/ MIT/Stanford type places that are a lottery for anyone. We are in VA if that matters but willing to look anywhere.

Complex algorithms like "merkle trees" or like "candlestick patterns"?
There's a world of difference between these two things.
Ask him and report back.

I have heard him mention candlestick and fractal patterns.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My sophomore is really into crypto, complex algorithms, etc. he spends lots of time researching and tracking these things and I think he would enjoy a college where he can dig into this more with like-minded professors and students. He is a good student and will likely test well but I am looking for ideas of schools to look at for him outside the Wharton/ MIT/Stanford type places that are a lottery for anyone. We are in VA if that matters but willing to look anywhere.

Complex algorithms like "merkle trees" or like "candlestick patterns"?
There's a world of difference between these two things.
Ask him and report back.

Just what the world needs another day trader practicing with craft. You might as well have him be a classics major and learn divining techniques

Smart. Good way to break into a career in defense contracting.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADE_651

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My sophomore is really into crypto, complex algorithms, etc. he spends lots of time researching and tracking these things and I think he would enjoy a college where he can dig into this more with like-minded professors and students. He is a good student and will likely test well but I am looking for ideas of schools to look at for him outside the Wharton/ MIT/Stanford type places that are a lottery for anyone. We are in VA if that matters but willing to look anywhere.

Complex algorithms like "merkle trees" or like "candlestick patterns"?
There's a world of difference between these two things.
Ask him and report back.

Just what the world needs another day trader practicing with craft. You might as well have him be a classics major and learn divining techniques

Anonymous wrote:OP here- thanks for the ideas. He would hate being a math major. He is really most motivated when digging into areas of specific interest and precalc is fine but he’s not loving it. We could be full pay but would prefer not to be. I don’t see him enjoying Wall Street. He would likely be happier in a quirkier environment.

What are the areas of specific interest?
What activity does he do in those interests?

Anonymous wrote:?

These topics are taught in school? No one I know involved in these activities learned it in school.

400 level math classes get very oddly specific and fun. I went to a slac, so not many of us taking those classes. If you could get a few math majors together with a reasonable request, professors would teach the class if it was in their wheel house.

Also, what's his opinion on GameStop and BBB?

Anonymous wrote:My sophomore is really into crypto, complex algorithms, etc. he spends lots of time researching and tracking these things and I think he would enjoy a college where he can dig into this more with like-minded professors and students. He is a good student and will likely test well but I am looking for ideas of schools to look at for him outside the Wharton/ MIT/Stanford type places that are a lottery for anyone. We are in VA if that matters but willing to look anywhere.

Complex algorithms like "merkle trees" or like "candlestick patterns"?
There's a world of difference between these two things.
Ask him and report back.

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Anonymous wrote:?

These topics are taught in school? No one I know involved in these activities learned it in school.

There are classes about Blockchain technology

as well as FinTech.

These are usually electives for CS or Business majors.
So schools that offer these as electives in their colleges

Anonymous wrote:?

These topics are taught in school? No one I know involved in these activities learned it in school.

There are classes about Blockchain technology

I work fo a crypto company. Nobody cares what school you go to if you have the skills. Pay is not great, though, at most start ups unless they go public or are purchased.

Does he want the programming side? Or is her more into the investing side? They are, as I'm sure you know, different skill sets. If he is interested in the investing side, see just Neds a business degree and he will learn about crypto on his own. The college classes are not cutting edge.

?

These topics are taught in school? No one I know involved in these activities learned it in school.

Schools with good CS and Business/Finance

Outside of T20,

Private: CMU, USC, NYU, BU, Northeastern, LeHigh

Public: UMich, UVA, VT, UMD, GIT, Texas, UIUC, Purdue, UWashington