Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 16:35     Subject: Regional universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't have the stats for UF or UCF, but for Early Action at FSU (only available to Florida residents), here were the stats:
ADMITTED STUDENT PROFILE:
FALL: GPA: 4.4-4.6, SAT: 1370-1480, ACT: 30-33
SUMMER: GPA: 4.2-4.5, SAT: 1300-1390, ACT: 28-31

Honestly, the Florida schools have gotten very competitive. Also, if I was a resident of Florida, I would only go out of state if I got into an Ivy or a school like MIT. The Bright Futures savings in Florida is insane (which might even make college free for some in Florida) - and I wish Virginia had something similar.



Isn't it the same as 529? Like VA and MD? Why would you then go to one of those states' schools?


No - b/c 529 is something that you fund. Bright Futures is money that the state of Florida gives to students who receive a certain score on the SATs (I guess kind of like a scholarship). I'm not sure if there is a GPA component as well. This is why a lot of people in Florida pay little to nothing for attending Florida publics.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 16:34     Subject: Regional universities
Also FIU
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 16:32     Subject: Regional universities
USF and FAU are also large state schools with D1 football. Are those on your radar?
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 16:19     Subject: Re:Regional universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To answer your question directly OP, unless your kid can get into one of the Top 10 public’s Mich, GA, UVA, UNC, UT Austin…. No, I do not think that schools like Rutgers, UMass, Texas A&M Ohio State etc will offer your child any better outcome in terms of ROI. But they may give a great vibe/experience being large sports schools.

Nice try.


TY for the useless contribution to the discussion.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 16:18     Subject: Regional universities
Anonymous wrote:I don't have the stats for UF or UCF, but for Early Action at FSU (only available to Florida residents), here were the stats:
ADMITTED STUDENT PROFILE:
FALL: GPA: 4.4-4.6, SAT: 1370-1480, ACT: 30-33
SUMMER: GPA: 4.2-4.5, SAT: 1300-1390, ACT: 28-31

Honestly, the Florida schools have gotten very competitive. Also, if I was a resident of Florida, I would only go out of state if I got into an Ivy or a school like MIT. The Bright Futures savings in Florida is insane (which might even make college free for some in Florida) - and I wish Virginia had something similar.



Isn't it the same as 529? Like VA and MD? Why would you then go to one of those states' schools?
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 16:15     Subject: Re:Regional universities
Anonymous wrote:To answer your question directly OP, unless your kid can get into one of the Top 10 public’s Mich, GA, UVA, UNC, UT Austin…. No, I do not think that schools like Rutgers, UMass, Texas A&M Ohio State etc will offer your child any better outcome in terms of ROI. But they may give a great vibe/experience being large sports schools.

Nice try.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 15:19     Subject: Regional universities
Anonymous wrote:I don't have the stats for UF or UCF, but for Early Action at FSU (only available to Florida residents), here were the stats:
ADMITTED STUDENT PROFILE:
FALL: GPA: 4.4-4.6, SAT: 1370-1480, ACT: 30-33
SUMMER: GPA: 4.2-4.5, SAT: 1300-1390, ACT: 28-31

Honestly, the Florida schools have gotten very competitive. Also, if I was a resident of Florida, I would only go out of state if I got into an Ivy or a school like MIT. The Bright Futures savings in Florida is insane (which might even make college free for some in Florida) - and I wish Virginia had something similar.



Just a reminder that these stats for FSU are only for Early Action. The regular decision pool will most likely not be as strong. I heard that many were deferred because early actions rounds usually select the students with the highest stats only. So if your student doesn't get via Early Action, they still have a decent shot of getting in regular decision (as long as the stats are in the ballpark of the common data set). Even if they are not, there are always outliers. Oh - and in general these days, boys have an easier chance at admission at a lot of schools to balance out the male/female ratio.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 15:15     Subject: Regional universities
Depending on what your kid wants to study, you may want to look at USF (public) as well. USF is a little easier to get into than UCF (and generally gives better merit than UCF). Also, people who have interest in nursing or anything medical/biological- will often choose USF over UCF (though I believe UCF has a decent nursing school as well). The only thing about USF is that the surrounding area is not supposed to be very nice. Still, many who attend USF are happy with the school.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 14:50     Subject: Re:Regional universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What are the instate acceptance rates and stats for
UF
Florida State
UCF
UTampa?


30%
25%
41%
Tampa is private


These acceptance rates seem reachable for most disciplined students. I would think As and Bs would do it. OP do you think your kid can get into these in state colleges?


Oddly, I read that Tampa has a 26% acceptance despite the fact that the SAT scores for the school are significantly lower than the other schools on the list. UCF has acceptance in the upper 30s. We'll see what happens this year - as it is predicted to be another record breaking year for all of these schools. Tampa is also private.

UCF is often chosen over UF and FSU because they offer really good merit (for high stats kids - 25% of its applicants receive merit). However, I read somewhere that they are cutting back on OOS merit - most likely because they don't need to attract more out of state students. Kind of like Clemson did a few years back - where they used to give really good merit - and now they give maybe half of what they used to offer. Also, a lot of kids prefer the work/internship opportunities that come with the Orlando area v. Gainesville or Tallahassee. One other advantage of UCF over UF is that it is easier (more predictable) to get into the Honor's College at UCF over UF. The Honor's College is huge advantage any large school because it allows students to 1) get early registration - so that they can get the classes/professors that they need or want; 2) get special Honor's advisors (which can be helpful when the regular advisor might suck); and 3) access to other opportunities and events that are only open to Honor's students. So I have seen people reject UF and go to UCF because they did not get into the Honor's college at UF. Also, at UF, admission into the Honor's college isn't as stats based as is the case at UCF or FSU. It is more subjective- so more difficult to know what they are looking for.


Yes, it is very tough here. Tampa is a definite no because if in state we want public. I am just not feeling hopeful about an acceptance at UF, UCF or FSU, because he has the grades, but his SAT scores are on the low end for acceptance. Then again they might want a quota of medallion scholars v. bright futures? Not sure how that gets determined.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 14:44     Subject: Regional universities
I don't have the stats for UF or UCF, but for Early Action at FSU (only available to Florida residents), here were the stats:
ADMITTED STUDENT PROFILE:
FALL: GPA: 4.4-4.6, SAT: 1370-1480, ACT: 30-33
SUMMER: GPA: 4.2-4.5, SAT: 1300-1390, ACT: 28-31

Honestly, the Florida schools have gotten very competitive. Also, if I was a resident of Florida, I would only go out of state if I got into an Ivy or a school like MIT. The Bright Futures savings in Florida is insane (which might even make college free for some in Florida) - and I wish Virginia had something similar.

Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 14:31     Subject: Re:Regional universities
To answer your question directly OP, unless your kid can get into one of the Top 10 public’s Mich, GA, UVA, UNC, UT Austin…. No, I do not think that schools like Rutgers, UMass, Texas A&M Ohio State etc will offer your child any better outcome in terms of ROI. But they may give a great vibe/experience being large sports schools.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 14:25     Subject: Re:Regional universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What are the instate acceptance rates and stats for
UF
Florida State
UCF
UTampa?


30%
25%
41%
Tampa is private


These acceptance rates seem reachable for most disciplined students. I would think As and Bs would do it. OP do you think your kid can get into these in state colleges?


Oddly, I read that Tampa has a 26% acceptance despite the fact that the SAT scores for the school are significantly lower than the other schools on the list. UCF has acceptance in the upper 30s. We'll see what happens this year - as it is predicted to be another record breaking year for all of these schools. Tampa is also private.

UCF is often chosen over UF and FSU because they offer really good merit (for high stats kids - 25% of its applicants receive merit). However, I read somewhere that they are cutting back on OOS merit - most likely because they don't need to attract more out of state students. Kind of like Clemson did a few years back - where they used to give really good merit - and now they give maybe half of what they used to offer. Also, a lot of kids prefer the work/internship opportunities that come with the Orlando area v. Gainesville or Tallahassee. One other advantage of UCF over UF is that it is easier (more predictable) to get into the Honor's College at UCF over UF. The Honor's College is huge advantage any large school because it allows students to 1) get early registration - so that they can get the classes/professors that they need or want; 2) get special Honor's advisors (which can be helpful when the regular advisor might suck); and 3) access to other opportunities and events that are only open to Honor's students. So I have seen people reject UF and go to UCF because they did not get into the Honor's college at UF. Also, at UF, admission into the Honor's college isn't as stats based as is the case at UCF or FSU. It is more subjective- so more difficult to know what they are looking for.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 14:10     Subject: Re:Regional universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What are the instate acceptance rates and stats for
UF
Florida State
UCF
UTampa?


30%
25%
41%
Tampa is private


These acceptance rates seem reachable for most disciplined students. I would think As and Bs would do it. OP do you think your kid can get into these in state colleges?


His grades are very good, SAT scores just on the cusp of Medallion and Bright Futures. UCF seems by far more doable, but the issue is every good student in FL is going to apply to all of these because they are all great schools and low cost/free. So we are going to apply, but we really cannot count on an acceptance.


So he has like a 1330? I think he’ll get into one of the instate options.
If you’re going to look OOS, first, can you afford it? I guess you could look at U Delaware, Arizona State… that level. Schools like Mich, UVA, many UC’s are probably out of reach. Maybe UC Irvine?
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 14:02     Subject: Re:Regional universities
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What are the instate acceptance rates and stats for
UF
Florida State
UCF
UTampa?


30%
25%
41%
Tampa is private


These acceptance rates seem reachable for most disciplined students. I would think As and Bs would do it. OP do you think your kid can get into these in state colleges?


His grades are very good, SAT scores just on the cusp of Medallion and Bright Futures. UCF seems by far more doable, but the issue is every good student in FL is going to apply to all of these because they are all great schools and low cost/free. So we are going to apply, but we really cannot count on an acceptance.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2024 14:00     Subject: Re:Regional universities
Oh I understand the question - the top even 5 Florida state schools are crazy competitive for instate now.

I think your question depends on if the kid wants to go out of state and what you can afford. And what they will study. Give us more info.