Anonymous wrote:Would they still fight for workforce accessibility/equality or accept that stay at home mom is better than working a full time job and not seeing their kids grow up? Did it provide the happiness it promised?

Saw this question being asked and I know what I would choose

What kind of planet do you live on?

I have a full-time job, always have. I've definitely seen my kids grow up. You sound dim.

Victims

Yes we have moved on.

Or do we need to tell everyone in k-12 how second class citizen women were. Maybe that should be a 2 month social studies unit every year?

That will be good for the girls and the boys to hear over and over. Right?

Move on. Onward and upward.

Anonymous wrote:Would they still fight for workforce accessibility/equality or accept that stay at home mom is better than working a full time job and not seeing their kids grow up? Did it provide the happiness it promised?

Saw this question being asked and I know what I would choose

I can't speak for every woman but I would want women to have options with support and respect for their choices.

Biologically women bare a bigger responsibility as humans, pregnancy, birthing and child rearing are tough and some times threaten life and/or physical/mental health so their roles ARE different and it should be acknowledged not denied.

Yes, they sure can hire a surrogate and a nanny/daycare to outsource all or some mothering but ones wanting to do it themselves should be appreciated not demonized.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate such stupid questions.

Not all women are mothers. Not all mothers want to stay home. Those mothers that do want to stay home, still can.

+1

Now you have the choice - which was the power we gained. No, I don’t think we should give that up.

There's some weird misconception among some women today that the feminist movement was about "choice." It wasn't. It was about women's liberation and financial equality.

Remember also that during this time, a woman couldn't even get a credit card in her own name (until well into the 1970s) and needed her husband's permission for many other financial decisions. So it's about a lot more than just "choice" and staying at home and workplace access.

Anonymous wrote:Would they still fight for workforce accessibility/equality or accept that stay at home mom is better than working a full time job and not seeing their kids grow up? Did it provide the happiness it promised?

Saw this question being asked and I know what I would choose

Yes, women of all colors, ages and religions should be allowed to student and apply to whatever colleges, programs, industries, and employees they wish to and qualify for (skills, edu).

Yes, that’s worth “fighting for”.

The problem is the males who never grew and adapted to all the direct coddling they received from their mothers and if their wife was actually their next mommy figure.

Reverting back to enabling and accommodating dysfunctional one-trick pony (ie work) males is not moving forward for any country or society.

Males need a sense of community and positive role models there. That should be the focus. They isolate themselves too much, whether married or not. Other generations had fun, social softball or soccer leagues, racquet clubs, attending sporting events or performing arts, spiritually/religious communities, spoke with the neighbors more, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Would they still fight for workforce accessibility/equality or accept that stay at home mom is better than working a full time job and not seeing their kids grow up? Did it provide the happiness it promised?

Saw this question being asked and I know what I would choose

I think about this all the time. I think if you have a good marriage and husband, assuming that one job is enough to live a nice life, the 50s way seems easier. But that's a lot of ifs.

Just remember many if not most mommies were bored to tears and drugged with valium a/k/a "Mama's little helper." Be a little careful romanticizing it.

That said, it's true that a widespread two-parent workforce did help catalyze the affordability crisis with housing, I think.

Anonymous wrote:Would they still fight for workforce accessibility/equality or accept that stay at home mom is better than working a full time job and not seeing their kids grow up? Did it provide the happiness it promised?

Saw this question being asked and I know what I would choose

I don't know, Phyllis.

Have you watched Mrs. America?

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Anonymous wrote:I work full time, make >$500k, and see my children grow up and do tons of things together.

It’s how I manage my time and the systems we have set up.

Please share your systems! And your occupation.

And your money!

This is a dumb question.

Different way of viewing parenting in that era if mothers stayed home. People had a bunch of kids, ignored their kids a lot more (in a healthy way and a way that was much more socially acceptable and common). I don't think it's safe to say parents actually spent more quality time with their kids in that era.

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Anonymous wrote:God no!

I’m thankful for the 40 hour week that was fought for as well.

I could not imagine having someone I love with all my heart working more than that, never seeing their own kids, and giving up 1/2 their hard earned money to a cheating wife

Now that we’re getting closer to bring equal at work..

I’m also super thankful men are getting Paternity leave, getting family flexible schedules and gave more opportunities to be equal parents.

Plus I did not miss one thing in my children’s lives.

Also I could not imagine being so selfish as to not fight for women who don’t want to marry /have kids not having those opportunities.

Also … yes I’m very happy! I provide the happiness… it was never “ promised “ its comes from within.

How is that possible if you were at work and they were with somebody else?

Same way it’s possible for a SAHM not to miss anything even though they go to the bathroom, shower, do laundry, go for a run, go to the gym, take a nap, go to church, visit their parents, go grocery shopping, send their kids to school.

There is not one thing that I missed. I was home with them 4 days a week, worked 6-2:30 3 days a week when they were little, and a few hours after bedtime, they slept a lot or were in preschool.[b] My H did morning routine. Help from 10-4, kids napped 2x a day or were in a preschool.

I guess I “missed” 8-10, 12-1, 3-4 4x a week lol!

Soooo, you worked nowhere near full time. I am a working mom who is pretty happy with my life but I struggled mightily when my kids were smaller about the idea that I was missing a lot of waking hours I could have had with them. I definitely had on rose-colored glasses about what being a SAHM of two little kids would have been like, but it was technically true!

Did you all not watch Mad Men????

No, I don't want to be Betty Draper. F that.

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Anonymous wrote:God no!

I’m thankful for the 40 hour week that was fought for as well.

I could not imagine having someone I love with all my heart working more than that, never seeing their own kids, and giving up 1/2 their hard earned money to a cheating wife

Now that we’re getting closer to bring equal at work..

I’m also super thankful men are getting Paternity leave, getting family flexible schedules and gave more opportunities to be equal parents.

Plus I did not miss one thing in my children’s lives.

Also I could not imagine being so selfish as to not fight for women who don’t want to marry /have kids not having those opportunities.

Also … yes I’m very happy! I provide the happiness… it was never “ promised “ its comes from within.

How is that possible if you were at work and they were with somebody else?

Same way it’s possible for a SAHM not to miss anything even though they go to the bathroom, shower, do laundry, go for a run, go to the gym, take a nap, go to church, visit their parents, go grocery shopping, send their kids to school.

There is not one thing that I missed. I was home with them 4 days a week, worked 6-2:30 3 days a week when they were little, and a few hours after bedtime, they slept a lot or were in preschool. My H did morning routine. Help from 10-4, kids napped 2x a day or were in a preschool.

I guess I “missed” 8-10, 12-1, 3-4 4x a week lol!

Anonymous wrote:I am an academic. I love teaching and writing books and articles. This idea that every woman just wants to go to the gym and out to lunch is insulting. I am a Christian but believe that God has given us different gifts. Some of us women folk are meant to be doctors and lawyers, judges, architects, generals, admirals, teachers. How bizarre to think that all of us are somehow supposed to stay home.

Who said that in this thread?

I am an academic. I love teaching and writing books and articles. This idea that every woman just wants to go to the gym and out to lunch is insulting. I am a Christian but believe that God has given us different gifts. Some of us women folk are meant to be doctors and lawyers, judges, architects, generals, admirals, teachers. How bizarre to think that all of us are somehow supposed to stay home.