Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 11:08     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump lawyer now saying Congress has to bar Trump from office.


His argument there was so messed up but Kavanaugh didn't call him on it. He said Section 3 is implemented through the insurrection statute, so Trump would have to be convicted of insurrection, but then rushed back to provide the caveat that Trump cannot be prosecuted under the insurrection act because of presidential immunity!


Kavanaugh isn’t a great legal scholar.


He sounds significantly dumber than all the other Justices who have spoken so far.


Thomas says "hold my beer"
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 11:04     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump lawyer now saying Congress has to bar Trump from office.


His argument there was so messed up but Kavanaugh didn't call him on it. He said Section 3 is implemented through the insurrection statute, so Trump would have to be convicted of insurrection, but then rushed back to provide the caveat that Trump cannot be prosecuted under the insurrection act because of presidential immunity!


Kavanaugh isn’t a great legal scholar.


He sounds significantly dumber than all the other Justices who have spoken so far.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 11:04     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

Trump lawyer denies Jan 6 was an insurrection. Interesting.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 11:03     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump lawyer now saying Congress has to bar Trump from office.


His argument there was so messed up but Kavanaugh didn't call him on it. He said Section 3 is implemented through the insurrection statute, so Trump would have to be convicted of insurrection, but then rushed back to provide the caveat that Trump cannot be prosecuted under the insurrection act because of presidential immunity!


Kavanaugh isn’t a great legal scholar.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 11:03     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the court is going to rule he stays on the ballot. I'm curious about the why. This is history ya'll!


The SC justices that find in Trump's favor will have tied their legacy to excusing his unprecedented criminality. History will not look back on this period of time--or the chief actors in it--kindly.


Agree

They will lose any shred of impartial credibility that is left …
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 11:03     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

Now they're talking insurrection.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 11:02     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump lawyer now saying Congress has to bar Trump from office.



But Congress is completely dysfunctional and can’t do their basic job. They’ve complete shirked their responsibilities.


Yeah, but that doesn't mean the court usurps the role.

It's a bad argument. Congress doesn't have to bar Trump from office, Congress can remove the disability and allow him to be qualified again - which they won't do (because they're dysfunctional).



Right but this is essentially what has been happening. Congress doesn’t do their job and other entities are having to take up the slack, see the Fed.

I don’t understand how the federal government can tell states how to run their elections.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 11:02     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

Anonymous wrote:KBJ has a good explanation of why VP and Pres are not mentioned in article 3.


Because at the time they were worried about lower-level insurrectionists.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 11:01     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

Anonymous wrote:Trump lawyer now saying Congress has to bar Trump from office.


His argument there was so messed up but Kavanaugh didn't call him on it. He said Section 3 is implemented through the insurrection statute, so Trump would have to be convicted of insurrection, but then rushed back to provide the caveat that Trump cannot be prosecuted under the insurrection act because of presidential immunity!
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 11:01     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

KBJ has a good explanation of why VP and Pres are not mentioned in article 3.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 11:00     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump lawyer now saying Congress has to bar Trump from office.



But Congress is completely dysfunctional and can’t do their basic job. They’ve complete shirked their responsibilities.


Yeah, but that doesn't mean the court usurps the role.

It's a bad argument. Congress doesn't have to bar Trump from office, Congress can remove the disability and allow him to be qualified again - which they won't do (because they're dysfunctional).
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 10:59     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

Anonymous wrote:Trump lawyer now saying Congress has to bar Trump from office.



But Congress is completely dysfunctional and can’t do their basic job. They’ve complete shirked their responsibilities.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 10:59     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

Trump lawyer saying Congress can defund a position as an alternate way to push an officer out of office, instead of impeachment. As if that would apply to a President.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 10:58     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

Anonymous wrote:I think the court is going to rule he stays on the ballot. I'm curious about the why. This is history ya'll!


The SC justices that find in Trump's favor will have tied their legacy to excusing his unprecedented criminality. History will not look back on this period of time--or the chief actors in it--kindly.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2024 10:57     Subject: Supreme Court Hearing on 14th Amendment and Trump

ACB poking holes in above argument.