Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 13:40     Subject: Fights at school

My 6th grader who does not attend Banneker has a video of the fight last week where the bully got stabbed on her phone. There are 2 different video angles circulating our side of the county. These videos travel fast.
While I agree they shouldn’t share the videos, mg concern is the level of violence allowed in the schools in the first place.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 13:36     Subject: Fights at school

As I understand the law if you can see it with your eyes then you can take a photograph or video. No invasion of privacy. That said, doing something with that photo / video could just turn a hallway scrap into parking lot brawl or worse. So don't post or pass it around. You are just making things worse. And I am supposing that is why those kids get suspended also?
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 13:23     Subject: Fights at school

Schools have a quite a few cameras that they use to reference anytime there is a fight; they will find students who film as well as participate and usually there are consequences .
Obviously, it depends on the administration because as we know things are not always equitable between schools. I’m really sorry this happened to your child OP.
This whole concept of video recording, and putting it on social media or sharing is absolutely a scourge upon our society.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 12:52     Subject: Fights at school

There's a difference between recording a fight and disseminating a video. I would think recording it and not sharing it publicly would not be a violation of the MCPS code.

Sharing could be bullying or other things.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 12:20     Subject: Fights at school

Not to upset OP or anyone. Just trying to understand why is it so bad to record a fight? Because
1. Its not like other students won’t find out about it.
2. It’s happening during school hours so obviously lots of witnesses anyway
3. Imagine if witnesses had not recorded George Floyd’s incident, what proof would there have been against the police officers involved in that case?

So again, what is so bad about recording a fight?
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 12:17     Subject: Re:Fights at school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Principals will try to go after your kid for documenting the incident more than the kids who badly behaved. MCPS hates bad news about its schools getting out into the public.


+1 yes. They are in complete denial of what people know about though. In the day of social media and journalists who knows better, MCPS is no longer the leader in optics! They need to fix the problems not give the impression they have it under control. Release the IG report if you have nothing to hide, MCPS and BOE and press harder for the release, MoCO Council!


The released IG Report:
"We are unable to reach a firm conclusion because administrators gave evasive statements and withheld evidence."


BS
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 12:15     Subject: Re:Fights at school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Principals will try to go after your kid for documenting the incident more than the kids who badly behaved. MCPS hates bad news about its schools getting out into the public.


+1 yes. They are in complete denial of what people know about though. In the day of social media and journalists who knows better, MCPS is no longer the leader in optics! They need to fix the problems not give the impression they have it under control. Release the IG report if you have nothing to hide, MCPS and BOE and press harder for the release, MoCO Council!


The released IG Report:
"We are unable to reach a firm conclusion because administrators gave evasive statements and withheld evidence."
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 12:03     Subject: Fights at school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happens if your child films a fight at school during school hours? Do they get in trouble for filming it?


Tell your child not to record fights.


My child didn’t record it. My child was the victim unfortunately.


Translation - a participant in the fight? I'd worry more about that, OP, than the fact that someone recorded it.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 12:01     Subject: Fights at school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happens if your child films a fight at school during school hours? Do they get in trouble for filming it?


Tell your child not to record fights.


My child didn’t record it. My child was the victim unfortunately.


I am very sorry OP.

Well the answer depends on many things.

If the video is being spread then the person who spread it could be in a ton of trouble. They filmed a minor and then spread that on social media in MD there is a defamation clause that can be used in a court of law. Especially in the case of a minor.

I would file a police report.


I'm going to need a cite for this, because it sure sounds wrong.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 11:59     Subject: Re:Fights at school

Anonymous wrote:Principals will try to go after your kid for documenting the incident more than the kids who badly behaved. MCPS hates bad news about its schools getting out into the public.


+1 yes. They are in complete denial of what people know about though. In the day of social media and journalists who knows better, MCPS is no longer the leader in optics! They need to fix the problems not give the impression they have it under control. Release the IG report if you have nothing to hide, MCPS and BOE and press harder for the release, MoCO Council!
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 11:53     Subject: Fights at school

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes there is consequences for the kid that films at least at our MCPS high school.

In the case I know of personally, the kid filming and sharing received a five day suspension. The kids fighting received a ten day suspension plus a hearing before they could come back.[/quote]

+1[/quote]

+1. Schools and even law enforcement is pushing for this for several reasons:
1) It becomes a bullying situation
2) It can incite the situation to prolong or become worse
3) It increases the likelihood of retribution and potentially greater violence
4) It puts people on the internet w/o their permission.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 11:49     Subject: Fights at school

Anonymous wrote:Our school disciplined kids who did this.

Personally I think they should not discipline kids if they take the video immediately to admin, their parents or police, and then delete it. Those kids are providing useful evidence, not spreading trouble.


MCPS does NOT want ‘useful evidence’. MCPS wants to sweep these incidents under the rug. Truly.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 11:48     Subject: Fights at school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Principal will remind the school community to give privacy and not film. However we know that will not happen.


+1. Because the video makes the school administration look incompetent.


Of course, MCPS only cares about optics.


Just stop it.



Why? It's the truth.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 11:47     Subject: Re:Fights at school

Principals will try to go after your kid for documenting the incident more than the kids who badly behaved. MCPS hates bad news about its schools getting out into the public.
Anonymous
Post 02/07/2024 11:47     Subject: Fights at school

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Principal will remind the school community to give privacy and not film. However we know that will not happen.


+1. Because the video makes the school administration look incompetent.


Of course, MCPS only cares about optics.


Just stop it.