Anonymous
Post 02/04/2024 19:38     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I let my company know during my pregnancy that I would not be coming back. I thought about who in the company might be a good choice to replace me. We got them onboard and I trained them.


Same, except company had a re-org right before I left and dragged their feet on hiring process so I didn’t get to train but was willing. It’s unethical and sets feminism and all women back to do what OP is proposing. We want more maternity leave and to show society it’s good for everyone. Doing this bait and switch just gives bitter misogynists another reason to hate women and be stingy with benefits.


Agreed. I have a low opinion of women who do this.


I returned from maternity leave and was laid off within a month. What's your opinion of employers who do that?

Ultimately, you have to put your family first because your employer won't put you first.


I think they are crap and should be exposed and, when possible, taken to court.

I don’t care about employers. I care about all women and the perception of women and how that perception affects all of us and our opportunities. Becoming a mom to a daughter made feminism feel very urgent to me, and I act on that when I can.


Yawn.

Maternity leave is a joke in the U.S. I think women like you who are invested in pretending that 6 weeks or 12 weeks is anywhere near humane are setting women back. Go be a corporate bootlicker in a feminist costume somewhere else.

Congratulations on being happy with scraps, the rest of us are not.


Your employer did not hire you to have a child and, frankly, only owes you a paycheck if you perform the job you were hired to do. If you are on anything other than earned PTO then whatever maternity leave you get it as a gift. Show some appreciation!
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2024 19:24     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I let my company know during my pregnancy that I would not be coming back. I thought about who in the company might be a good choice to replace me. We got them onboard and I trained them.


Same, except company had a re-org right before I left and dragged their feet on hiring process so I didn’t get to train but was willing. It’s unethical and sets feminism and all women back to do what OP is proposing. We want more maternity leave and to show society it’s good for everyone. Doing this bait and switch just gives bitter misogynists another reason to hate women and be stingy with benefits.


Agreed. I have a low opinion of women who do this.


Do what? Take maternity leave they are entitled to? What’s the alternative? Quit before giving birth and give up months of benefits?

You're supposed to put your baby in daycare at 6 weeks and get back to work, of course.


Obviously. Feminists know their jobs need them far more than their newborns ever could. Any idiot can change a diaper—the baby doesn’t know the difference between mom and a paid caregiver.


Ew I hope this is sarcasm 😖😖😒
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2024 18:50     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I let my company know during my pregnancy that I would not be coming back. I thought about who in the company might be a good choice to replace me. We got them onboard and I trained them.


Same, except company had a re-org right before I left and dragged their feet on hiring process so I didn’t get to train but was willing. It’s unethical and sets feminism and all women back to do what OP is proposing. We want more maternity leave and to show society it’s good for everyone. Doing this bait and switch just gives bitter misogynists another reason to hate women and be stingy with benefits.


Agreed. I have a low opinion of women who do this.


I returned from maternity leave and was laid off within a month. What's your opinion of employers who do that?

Ultimately, you have to put your family first because your employer won't put you first.


I think they are crap and should be exposed and, when possible, taken to court.

I don’t care about employers. I care about all women and the perception of women and how that perception affects all of us and our opportunities. Becoming a mom to a daughter made feminism feel very urgent to me, and I act on that when I can.


Yawn.

Maternity leave is a joke in the U.S. I think women like you who are invested in pretending that 6 weeks or 12 weeks is anywhere near humane are setting women back. Go be a corporate bootlicker in a feminist costume somewhere else.

Congratulations on being happy with scraps, the rest of us are not.


I genuinely don’t understand where you get the idea from my comments that I think 6 or 12 weeks are enough maternity leave. I do not. I think you’re imposing your own un-nuanced biases.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2024 13:05     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I let my company know during my pregnancy that I would not be coming back. I thought about who in the company might be a good choice to replace me. We got them onboard and I trained them.


Same, except company had a re-org right before I left and dragged their feet on hiring process so I didn’t get to train but was willing. It’s unethical and sets feminism and all women back to do what OP is proposing. We want more maternity leave and to show society it’s good for everyone. Doing this bait and switch just gives bitter misogynists another reason to hate women and be stingy with benefits.


Agreed. I have a low opinion of women who do this.


I returned from maternity leave and was laid off within a month. What's your opinion of employers who do that?

Ultimately, you have to put your family first because your employer won't put you first.


I think they are crap and should be exposed and, when possible, taken to court.

I don’t care about employers. I care about all women and the perception of women and how that perception affects all of us and our opportunities. Becoming a mom to a daughter made feminism feel very urgent to me, and I act on that when I can.


Yawn.

Maternity leave is a joke in the U.S. I think women like you who are invested in pretending that 6 weeks or 12 weeks is anywhere near humane are setting women back. Go be a corporate bootlicker in a feminist costume somewhere else.

Congratulations on being happy with scraps, the rest of us are not.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2024 12:51     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I let my company know during my pregnancy that I would not be coming back. I thought about who in the company might be a good choice to replace me. We got them onboard and I trained them.


Same, except company had a re-org right before I left and dragged their feet on hiring process so I didn’t get to train but was willing. It’s unethical and sets feminism and all women back to do what OP is proposing. We want more maternity leave and to show society it’s good for everyone. Doing this bait and switch just gives bitter misogynists another reason to hate women and be stingy with benefits.


Agreed. I have a low opinion of women who do this.


I returned from maternity leave and was laid off within a month. What's your opinion of employers who do that?

Ultimately, you have to put your family first because your employer won't put you first.


Most people are at will employees.

Then it goes both ways....


Exactly!
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2024 10:54     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I let my company know during my pregnancy that I would not be coming back. I thought about who in the company might be a good choice to replace me. We got them onboard and I trained them.


Same, except company had a re-org right before I left and dragged their feet on hiring process so I didn’t get to train but was willing. It’s unethical and sets feminism and all women back to do what OP is proposing. We want more maternity leave and to show society it’s good for everyone. Doing this bait and switch just gives bitter misogynists another reason to hate women and be stingy with benefits.


Agreed. I have a low opinion of women who do this.


I returned from maternity leave and was laid off within a month. What's your opinion of employers who do that?

Ultimately, you have to put your family first because your employer won't put you first.


Most people are at will employees.

Then it goes both ways....
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2024 13:56     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I let my company know during my pregnancy that I would not be coming back. I thought about who in the company might be a good choice to replace me. We got them onboard and I trained them.


Same, except company had a re-org right before I left and dragged their feet on hiring process so I didn’t get to train but was willing. It’s unethical and sets feminism and all women back to do what OP is proposing. We want more maternity leave and to show society it’s good for everyone. Doing this bait and switch just gives bitter misogynists another reason to hate women and be stingy with benefits.


Agreed. I have a low opinion of women who do this.


I returned from maternity leave and was laid off within a month. What's your opinion of employers who do that?

Ultimately, you have to put your family first because your employer won't put you first.


Most people are at will employees.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2024 13:52     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

Anonymous wrote:Not right away, but a few months after returning to work. Would you do anything differently? Prepare in any way? They cannot get back the maternity leave or ask me to pay anything- it’s in their policies.


You will need a reference from this employer at some point and as an employer, I would only give basic reference confirming your dates of employment and if asked if you were eligible for rehire, would still only confirm dates of employment which is all an employer is required to give.

Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 21:44     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I let my company know during my pregnancy that I would not be coming back. I thought about who in the company might be a good choice to replace me. We got them onboard and I trained them.


Same, except company had a re-org right before I left and dragged their feet on hiring process so I didn’t get to train but was willing. It’s unethical and sets feminism and all women back to do what OP is proposing. We want more maternity leave and to show society it’s good for everyone. Doing this bait and switch just gives bitter misogynists another reason to hate women and be stingy with benefits.


Agreed. I have a low opinion of women who do this.


Do what? Take maternity leave they are entitled to? What’s the alternative? Quit before giving birth and give up months of benefits?


No, she is entitled to the leave but if she knows shes not coming back she could be honest and help the company replace her without putting strain on the rest of her department. If they are saving projects for you to take on and then have to scramble it looks bad, and to another posters point makes companies distrust all women.

If you do plan to come.back full time for a bit, I wouldn't do anything differently. Just tell them as soon as you come back so there is time to prepare. Also things change and you dont want to back yourself in to something until you are sure.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 21:41     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I let my company know during my pregnancy that I would not be coming back. I thought about who in the company might be a good choice to replace me. We got them onboard and I trained them.


Same, except company had a re-org right before I left and dragged their feet on hiring process so I didn’t get to train but was willing. It’s unethical and sets feminism and all women back to do what OP is proposing. We want more maternity leave and to show society it’s good for everyone. Doing this bait and switch just gives bitter misogynists another reason to hate women and be stingy with benefits.


Agreed. I have a low opinion of women who do this.


I returned from maternity leave and was laid off within a month. What's your opinion of employers who do that?

Ultimately, you have to put your family first because your employer won't put you first.


I think they are crap and should be exposed and, when possible, taken to court.

I don’t care about employers. I care about all women and the perception of women and how that perception affects all of us and our opportunities. Becoming a mom to a daughter made feminism feel very urgent to me, and I act on that when I can.


I care about all women too and think they should use their earned benefits within their employers policies. So should the men! I do not have a low opinion of women “who do this.” Feminism does not equal bending to the (generally male) perceptions of women - it’s about equality and women having the same rights and same opportunities as men.


Very well said!
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 21:37     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

If you’re at Amazon, sure hit Bezos for what he’s worth. If you’re at a mom and pop this is disgusting behavior period. Don’t do this to small businesses, they like, actually cannot afford your maternity leave and are doing it because they actually care.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 21:13     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

You will absolutely burn a bridge and not get a recommendation so good luck with that.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 21:08     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

Also this whole debate is sort of a moot point, the vast majority of US employers offer NO paid leave benefit for the birth of a child. It is typically FMLA (if you are even eligible) which merely secures your job when you return…. but no pay, a full draw down of your sick and vacation (which already belong to you), and then going unpaid. Have done it twice myself and it frankly is shameful there is no mandated coverage for this.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 21:05     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I let my company know during my pregnancy that I would not be coming back. I thought about who in the company might be a good choice to replace me. We got them onboard and I trained them.


Same, except company had a re-org right before I left and dragged their feet on hiring process so I didn’t get to train but was willing. It’s unethical and sets feminism and all women back to do what OP is proposing. We want more maternity leave and to show society it’s good for everyone. Doing this bait and switch just gives bitter misogynists another reason to hate women and be stingy with benefits.


Agreed. I have a low opinion of women who do this.


I returned from maternity leave and was laid off within a month. What's your opinion of employers who do that?

Ultimately, you have to put your family first because your employer won't put you first.


I think they are crap and should be exposed and, when possible, taken to court.

I don’t care about employers. I care about all women and the perception of women and how that perception affects all of us and our opportunities. Becoming a mom to a daughter made feminism feel very urgent to me, and I act on that when I can.


I care about all women too and think they should use their earned benefits within their employers policies. So should the men! I do not have a low opinion of women “who do this.” Feminism does not equal bending to the (generally male) perceptions of women - it’s about equality and women having the same rights and same opportunities as men.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2024 20:54     Subject: If you knew you were going to quit after maternity leave

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I let my company know during my pregnancy that I would not be coming back. I thought about who in the company might be a good choice to replace me. We got them onboard and I trained them.


Same, except company had a re-org right before I left and dragged their feet on hiring process so I didn’t get to train but was willing. It’s unethical and sets feminism and all women back to do what OP is proposing. We want more maternity leave and to show society it’s good for everyone. Doing this bait and switch just gives bitter misogynists another reason to hate women and be stingy with benefits.


Agreed. I have a low opinion of women who do this.


Do what? Take maternity leave they are entitled to? What’s the alternative? Quit before giving birth and give up months of benefits?

You're supposed to put your baby in daycare at 6 weeks and get back to work, of course.


Obviously. Feminists know their jobs need them far more than their newborns ever could. Any idiot can change a diaper—the baby doesn’t know the difference between mom and a paid caregiver.