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Post 02/02/2024 15:53     Subject: CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.


OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!


Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?


There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.


I agree with you, but... the fair way to do things is for the all-star coaches to hold a tryout for kids who want to play. That's how it worked for my kids. Then at least everyone is aware.


You want the volunteer all star coach who also runs multiple practices a week and coaches a game every weekend to also volunteer multiple more hours to hold multiple tryouts for little 7 year olds (who will then be crushed and have angry parents when they aren't selected)?


Most 7yo rec players practice once a week. The all star coaches choose an hour on a Sunday afternoon to have interested kids scrimmage, and talk amongst themselves to place kids on teams. Boom, done. (In my experience, coaches really enjoyed doing all stars, so this was more fun/easier than a regular season practice with kids of varying levels of interest.)


LOL! You have never volunteered with a rec soccer org. You need multiple tryout dates because Larlo goes to church on Sundays and it's Larla's birthday and its not fair for her to miss the tryout. You have zero field space on Sundays, all being used by travel teams, BTW. You then need field space for multiple tryouts dates for EVERY AGE GROUP (U8,U9,U10,U11,U12,U13,U14, U16 and U19 boys and Girls separate of course) and the field space availability times needs to match the all star coaches availability to run tryouts. Then, the coach picks the team and someone needs to email all the unselected kids and deal with all the parent complaints.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:41     Subject: CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.


OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!


Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?


There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.


I agree with you, but... the fair way to do things is for the all-star coaches to hold a tryout for kids who want to play. That's how it worked for my kids. Then at least everyone is aware.


You want the volunteer all star coach who also runs multiple practices a week and coaches a game every weekend to also volunteer multiple more hours to hold multiple tryouts for little 7 year olds (who will then be crushed and have angry parents when they aren't selected)?


Most 7yo rec players practice once a week. The all star coaches choose an hour on a Sunday afternoon to have interested kids scrimmage, and talk amongst themselves to place kids on teams. Boom, done. (In my experience, coaches really enjoyed doing all stars, so this was more fun/easier than a regular season practice with kids of varying levels of interest.)
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:40     Subject: CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.


OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!


Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?


There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.

You are taking things too personally. No one is piling on anyone here. It was a legitimate question.


Obviously, the first person who posted was simply asking for information, but no one is piling on? Did you not see all the posts of people complaining about coaches kids getting preference? As if this is the NFL Pro-bowl. This is rec soccer and all the kids are at a pretty mid to lower level of play (no offense, but just comparing to travel players). Parent coaches volunteer their free time and absolutely can show preference for their own kid... big deal! It's a rec tournament... not travel. If you think your kid is being robbed of opportunity then coach or do travel soccer. But you should be thanking volunteer coaches instead of whining about them.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:36     Subject: CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
Anonymous wrote:Don't feel bad. CYA all star teams are being forced to do the tournament run by Valor again this spring and it suuuuuuuucked. Several families were livid last year that they gave up their weekend for it, they thought they were paying for the usual tournament not this weird money grab thing. It was lame. But Valor got to make money off the CYA rec kids.


Oh god, that crap again. I was hoping enough people complained about it being so bad that they wouldn't hold it again. That was the worst all star tournament my kids have ever played in and the youngest is U14 so we have been to many. I think Valor didn't care that it was terrible because they know they can force CYA and SYA teams to participate so they get their money whether the tournament stinks or not. The Fairfax Police tournament is so much better.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:33     Subject: CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.


OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!


Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?


There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.


I agree with you, but... the fair way to do things is for the all-star coaches to hold a tryout for kids who want to play. That's how it worked for my kids. Then at least everyone is aware.


Maybe you, the parent, can email CYA and offer to run all the All Star tryouts for all the age groups this season? Since you think that is the fair way to do it. You will need to have multiple days and times for every age group (usually U7-U19), a system for evaluating players, and then enter all that eval date into a spreadsheet of some sort and email it to all the volunteer coaches.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:31     Subject: CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
Don't feel bad. CYA all star teams are being forced to do the tournament run by Valor again this spring and it suuuuuuuucked. Several families were livid last year that they gave up their weekend for it, they thought they were paying for the usual tournament not this weird money grab thing. It was lame. But Valor got to make money off the CYA rec kids.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 15:28     Subject: CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.


OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!


Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?


There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.


I agree with you, but... the fair way to do things is for the all-star coaches to hold a tryout for kids who want to play. That's how it worked for my kids. Then at least everyone is aware.


You want the volunteer all star coach who also runs multiple practices a week and coaches a game every weekend to also volunteer multiple more hours to hold multiple tryouts for little 7 year olds (who will then be crushed and have angry parents when they aren't selected)?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 14:36     Subject: CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.


OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!


I didn’t really understand any of it when my son was picked at U8. We just got an email saying he was picked and how to officially sign up. I know a little more about it all now that my younger kid still plays CYA rec and I know the age group coordinator for that age. I remember the email asked us to tell our kids not to talk about all stars at their regular team practice, so they wouldn’t make the other kids feel bad. I agree it leads to a lack of transparency, but I think most kids who deserve to make all stars will get picked at some point or another.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 12:59     Subject: CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
I didn't say my son deserves to be in all stars, he's an average player, he's definitely not what I'd consider an all-star player, I was just curious about how they're picked. Now I know. Thank you to everyone who gave calm answers.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 12:57     Subject: CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
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Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.


OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!


Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?


There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.

You are taking things too personally. No one is piling on anyone here. It was a legitimate question.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 11:59     Subject: Re:CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
I coached both of my kids in house, and didn’t select either for all-stars. They didn’t deserve it. I think I am the only coach I’ve seen who has done this.

My DD is now captain of an ECNL team. DS just started travel, so we’ll see how he turns out.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 11:54     Subject: CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.


OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!


Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?


There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.


I agree with you, but... the fair way to do things is for the all-star coaches to hold a tryout for kids who want to play. That's how it worked for my kids. Then at least everyone is aware.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 11:30     Subject: CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
It is not like 1 coach’s kid takes up 9 spots on a roster. So if your kid doesnt make AllStars it’s not a travesty, they simply were not top 8 players. After top 3-4 players are all prettt similar.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 10:09     Subject: CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.


OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!


Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?


There's an easy solution to those parents that are upset that their kid didn't get selected and the coaches kids did. Volunteer your time and coach! Too busy? Much rather have someone else babysit your kid 3 days a week for free. Then you pile on that guy that volunteered his time for your kids while you complain? I love all these sideline parents that love to say how things should be but will never lift a finger to help. If your kid is so good, put them in travel soccer. All-star tournaments are just for fun and a thank you to coaches that volunteer their time.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 08:59     Subject: CYA All Stars - how are they chosen?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Coaches nominate kids on their own team for all stars. The youngest age group for all stars is U8. If a kid who is young enough to be playing U6 or U7 is picked, it’s because they were playing up on a U8 team and were good enough to stand out among those kids. Theoretically, if they were good enough to stand out in the regular season, they can hang relatively well in the All-Star games. I think the leagues attempt to put together A, B, C etc teams so they can be properly place in brackets at the tournament, but I’m sure it’s not perfect. Coaches of U6 and U7 teams are not nominating kids for all stars.

There is supposed to be representation from each team at all stars. So if a kid is decent on a really bad team, they’re going to stand out and get picked for all stars. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’re really good. Conversely, if a kid happens to be on a team with a lot of good players, it will be tougher to get picked as an all star because there are several standouts.

And yeah, being a coach’s kid definitely increases your chances of being picked. When I think of the kids whose parents coached, all of them have gone to all stars LOL. But of course, plenty of kids whose parents do not coach get picked for all stars.


OP here. There was zero transparency around this on our team. My kid has played with these kids since last year and I just found out from talking to a parent that their son has been on the all-stars team last spring and this fall. I didn't even know there WAS an all stars team!


Now you know.

Coaches are in no win situation: you’re upset you didn’t know; others are upset if it is made known to kids they did not make it. Why would a volunteer coach give up a weekend to coach AllStars and not have her kid in team?