Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

You just said that have to already be in the race. Make up your mind.

OP here: List a candidate who you truly think would beat Trump if they get in the race today. I don't understand why this is so hard. People love to throw out hypotheticals and ignore reality. If some were to get in the race today, they would need to have money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition NOW.

My point is to get folks to stop complaining about If Only... and address the issue at hand. Joe Biden is the nominee. Either you want a Democrat to win or you want Trump. If you don't want Trump, that is Biden. There is no alternative.

So tired of the argument “but Trump is worse so vote for me” No thanks. I would rather sit this one out or vote my conscience.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

I don’t want to do the work. Voted for Biden in 2020 but he has been such a disappointment so definitely not voting for him again. He has not delivered on his campaign promises. He is just an old senile man propped up by the Democratic establishment because they wanted a white man to defeat Trump.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

You just said that have to already be in the race. Make up your mind.

OP here: List a candidate who you truly think would beat Trump if they get in the race today. I don't understand why this is so hard. People love to throw out hypotheticals and ignore reality. If some were to get in the race today, they would need to have money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition NOW.

My point is to get folks to stop complaining about If Only... and address the issue at hand. Joe Biden is the nominee. Either you want a Democrat to win or you want Trump. If you don't want Trump, that is Biden. There is no alternative.

Anonymous wrote:Gretchen Whitmer

a great future president. Doesn't poll favorably to Trump currently.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

I'm saying, anyone claiming that ANY DEMS will win over Biden isn't dealing with the reality that we are in the campaign. So stop complaining and get to work to keep Trump out of the White House.

Biden won in 2020 and will win again IF We ALL DO THE WORK. So man up and stop complaining. Anyone griping who doesn't lift a finger deserves Trump. Self- government means we all need to be involved in some way or any other. If you are on this board, then you have the time and skills to make a few call, write a letter, send postcards.

Stop B ! T C H I N G, start D O I N G.

Anonymous wrote:No Democrat can beat Trump.

He lost to Biden. Oh yes he did.

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Anonymous wrote:Klobuchar. She would eat Trump alive, with a comb if necessary. Democrats don't find her appealing though, due to her warhawkish nature. Still, would attract the moderates and women.

OP here.
1. She's not running.
2. Americas aren't electing a woman right now (I'm a woman)
3. No one outside MN or a political junkie knows who she is

Errrr... You are moving your own goalposts. She ran for the nomination in 2020. Millions of Americans saw her. She was portrayed as mean as a counter to the doddering grandfather that is Biden.

OP here. OK, I'll give you that. She has some name recognition but now as much as you think. They may remember a few woman ran for President but with 14 + candidates they couldn't tell you who is who. I still think only political junkie's know who she is but fine, I'll give you it. Now go ask 8 neighbors/family/friends if she were running, would they vote for her over Biden.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

So a campaign held today would be won by someone who is currently actively campaigning? With insight like that, you should be a political consultant

Anonymous wrote:Barack Obama. At least that's who Trump thinks he's running against, and it's making him really nervous.

Trump really thinks he's running against Obama
https://news.yahoo.com/joe-trump-really-thinks-running-111627897.html

That would make Obama magical in more than one way.

Barack Obama. At least that's who Trump thinks he's running against, and it's making him really nervous.

Trump really thinks he's running against Obama
https://news.yahoo.com/joe-trump-really-thinks-running-111627897.html

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.

You just said that have to already be in the race. Make up your mind.

Here's and idea, if you think Biden can't win but hate Trump, do something. Here are some ideas:

Make phone calls, canvass, or text with groups such as the following:
o Field Team Six - https://www.fieldteam6.org
o Vote Forward http://votefwd.org
o Sister District - https://sisterdistrict.com/
o Swing Blue - https://swingbluealliance.org/
o Indivisible - https://indivisible.org/

Send postcards, letters or easy faxes:
Postcards to Voters - http://postcardstovoters.org
Seniors Taking Action - https://seniorstakingaction.org/action-agenda/postcarding-basics/
faxzero.com/fax_congress.php

Write an Op-Ed:
https://www.aclu.org/documents/tips-writing-letter-editor
https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/writing-effective-letter-editor
Sign up to be a poll worker. (Contact your local election official).
Sign up to be a poll watcher during the elections or ensure people know where to get their ballots to mail in (including the drop off box locations) or drive them to the polls. Contact your local election official - this differs from state to state.
Consider becoming a Precinct Chair or get to know your own.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Klobuchar. She would eat Trump alive, with a comb if necessary. Democrats don't find her appealing though, due to her warhawkish nature. Still, would attract the moderates and women.

OP here.
1. She's not running.
2. Americas aren't electing a woman right now (I'm a woman)
3. No one outside MN or a political junkie knows who she is

Errrr... You are moving your own goalposts. She ran for the nomination in 2020. Millions of Americans saw her. She was portrayed as mean as a counter to the doddering grandfather that is Biden.

Anonymous wrote:No Democrat can beat Trump.

Of course they could with a popular vote. They can not with an electorial vote. The vote will go to the house and then Trump wins no matter who the person is.

Trump is a loser 7% of the votes of Iowa Repukes is not a landslide. Only 50% of Iowan Republcans voted in the primary. Even accounting for the sub zero temps that day and ballot stuffing of paper bags (surely that was legit right Morons?). Still incredibly low turnout for don the con. Most were over age of 60 given the rate that repukes are dying higher than Dems yeah Trump is not a favorite anywhere.

Math is glorious.

Anonymous wrote:Any marginally popular governor of a deep blue state. Laura Kelly or Jared Polis or Andy Beshear or Roy Cooper or Tim Walz

OP here.
1. Who??? Outside of their states they govern, no one know who these folks are.

Did you read the assignment. Who, if they go in the race TODAY would have a chance to beat Trump? Who has the money, the infrastructure, the nation and foreign policy accomplishment and the name recognition to battle Trump? You all are living in a fantasy of what you want from policy and future. I'm talking about reality. Today. Jan. 22, 2024.