Anonymous wrote:You do know that a miscarriage is technically an abortion, right?

And that the procedure to clear a missed miscarriage is also an abortion?

I think people need to be careful using terms like “majority” re: abortion

Anonymous wrote:You do know that a miscarriage is technically an abortion, right?

And that the procedure to clear a missed miscarriage is also an abortion?

I think people need to be careful using terms like “majority” re: abortion

Anonymous wrote:I mean, TX is regressive and awful.

And Republican policy and orthodoxy is regressive and awful.

It’s a sh!t sandwich

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the poster who basically said this woman was failed on multiple levels. Living in TX certainly didn’t help, but there are multiple system failures that made the situation that much worse for her and all combined to make her death all but inevitable.

I know it is harder than just blaming TX abortion law, but we really should be talking about the many laws and benefits that were lacking here.

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the poster who basically said this woman was failed on multiple levels. Living in TX certainly didn’t help, but there are multiple system failures that made the situation that much worse for her and all combined to make her death all but inevitable.

I know it is harder than just blaming TX abortion law, but we really should be talking about the many laws and benefits that were lacking here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We won’t really know what her choice was, because she didn’t have one.
I remember reading an article about a Covid denier who rode his bike to Sturgis, before there was an available vaccine.
He felt super good about his choice on his ride out to the rally. He literally said if he died, well so be it, he was doing what he loved.
Cut to him in the ICU a month later. He didn’t want to die was regretting his decision.
But at least he had a choice.
Was this woman made aware of the risks and consequences? I’m skeptical.
Keeping women in the dark about their circumstances and the best medical advice isn’t pro life.

We do know what this woman thought:

“Leticia wasn’t as sure, recalling something Yeni said in passing after her improvement in the Austin I.C.U.: that if a doctor had to choose between saving her or saving Selene, her daughter should come first. Leticia had responded, half in jest, “And who exactly is going to take care of Selene?” “Well, you, Mami!” Yeni said. “Me?” Leticia teased. “If you leave, you better take Selene with you!” Laughing, the women laid the subject to rest, never to discuss it again."“

This loving mother told her mom her baby girl came first.

I really don’t know what you want to happen after a pregnant woman tells her own mother her baby comes first. The doctors to hold her down and an anesthesiologist administer general sedation and the medical team remove her healthy baby by force?

If anyone reads the linked article, they can read that this woman was morbidly obese, had diabetes, other significant health problems, was not enrolled in the medicaid program she was entitled to be receiving healthcare benefits from, working a physical job while very sick and pregnant, and unable to afford her needed medication because she was not enrolled in medicaid.

Her husband (who left town with her car after her and their baby girl’s death, weird) should have taken control of the situation and helped his wife enroll in medicaid and supported her financially while she was working and desperately ill. It’s a messed up situation that unfortunately ended in this woman and her baby dying. She didn’t want an abortion.

Pretty soon, news stories about pregnant women being killed by their husbands and boyfriends (which happens all too often tragically, it’s scary) and democrats will be blaming their deaths on their inability to get abortions After all, if the women could have only killed their unborn babies, their husbands/boyfriends wouldn’t have had to kill them.

Anonymous wrote:We won’t really know what her choice was, because she didn’t have one.
I remember reading an article about a Covid denier who rode his bike to Sturgis, before there was an available vaccine.
He felt super good about his choice on his ride out to the rally. He literally said if he died, well so be it, he was doing what he loved.
Cut to him in the ICU a month later. He didn’t want to die was regretting his decision.
But at least he had a choice.
Was this woman made aware of the risks and consequences? I’m skeptical.
Keeping women in the dark about their circumstances and the best medical advice isn’t pro life.

Anonymous wrote:You people are certifiable. This poor woman was morbidly obese and had been diagnosed with diabetes before she was 30 years old. She wanted her baby. She did not want an abortion. She told her own mother that if something went wrong with her pregnancy, to save the life of her baby before her life.

She did what every woman here whines about 24/7/365: made her own reproductive choices.

The part I really don’t understand is that she definitely was able to qualify for medicaid, and should have received medicaid to pay for her doctor and hospital bills. It’s odd that when she was hospitalized a social worker didn’t visit her in the hospital to help her complete an application. It’s really weird one of her family members or her HUSBAND didn’t help her get the paperwork done so she could get health insurance. She seemed like a loving, caring woman who would go out of her way to help loved ones, but when she was pregnant, they couldn’t drive her to the social services office to speak with a customer service representative and get her overwhelming need for healthcare insurance taken care of. Her husband or mom should have done that immediately.

This is a sad story and I am sorry for this woman and her baby girl. Her family sucks because she was sick, and needed someone to help her get her health insurance and nobody did. She was deathly ill working a job, where the hell was everyone who loved her then? She needed their support then. They could have financially helped her and her obviously deadbeat husband while she was pregnant and in and out of the hospital. At the very least helped her coordinate her medicaid application. It can be backdated from the day you apply. All she had to do was apply; when she got approved, Medicaid would have paid her accumulated medical bills. Her family failed her.

Anonymous wrote:You people are certifiable. This poor woman was morbidly obese and had been diagnosed with diabetes before she was 30 years old. She wanted her baby. She did not want an abortion. She told her own mother that if something went wrong with her pregnancy, to save the life of her baby before her life.

She did what every woman here whines about 24/7/365: made her own reproductive choices.

The part I really don’t understand is that she definitely was able to qualify for medicaid, and should have received medicaid to pay for her doctor and hospital bills. It’s odd that when she was hospitalized a social worker didn’t visit her in the hospital to help her complete an application. It’s really weird one of her family members or her HUSBAND didn’t help her get the paperwork done so she could get health insurance. She seemed like a loving, caring woman who would go out of her way to help loved ones, but when she was pregnant, they couldn’t drive her to the social services office to speak with a customer service representative and get her overwhelming need for healthcare insurance taken care of. Her husband or mom should have done that immediately.

This is a sad story and I am sorry for this woman and her baby girl. Her family sucks because she was sick, and needed someone to help her get her health insurance and nobody did. She was deathly ill working a job, where the hell was everyone who loved her then? She needed their support then. They could have financially helped her and her obviously deadbeat husband while she was pregnant and in and out of the hospital. At the very least helped her coordinate her medicaid application. It can be backdated from the day you apply. All she had to do was apply; when she got approved, Medicaid would have paid her accumulated medical bills. Her family failed her.