Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:31     Subject: Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
Anonymous wrote:our policies at my federal office is clear, you are expected to telework today for 8 hours. If you are unable to do that due to child care responsibilities you are required to take annual leave. This doesn't seem complicated.


What if you have no annual leave?
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:31     Subject: Re:Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our office says lists power outage and child care as examples of extenuating circumstances to receive paid time off.


Yup. You have to be ~able~ to telework.


Which is why unscheduled leave is approved.


It’s why admin leave is approved.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:30     Subject: Re:Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our office says lists power outage and child care as examples of extenuating circumstances to receive paid time off.


Yup. You have to be ~able~ to telework.


Which is why unscheduled leave is approved.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:30     Subject: Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's unfair that we would have to use our leave (sick or annual) for this situation.

For what it's worth, I have enough of both but I don't think it's fair that we have to burn up our personal leave when the federal offices are closed.


Be very careful going down this path...

Offices are closed not because work can't be done, but because commuting isn't safe.
You get the benefit of not commuting. There is no reason why you can't work.

What would you do if federal offices were not closed? Do that thing.


Children at home is actually a reason to not work.

It always has been.


It still is. That’s what your leave is for.

This isn’t complicated.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:29     Subject: Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's unfair that we would have to use our leave (sick or annual) for this situation.

For what it's worth, I have enough of both but I don't think it's fair that we have to burn up our personal leave when the federal offices are closed.


Be very careful going down this path...

Offices are closed not because work can't be done, but because commuting isn't safe.
You get the benefit of not commuting. There is no reason why you can't work.

What would you do if federal offices were not closed? Do that thing.


Children at home is actually a reason to not work.

It always has been.


Except for Covid where everyone pretended everything was fine. What kids? What schools?
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:29     Subject: Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's unfair that we would have to use our leave (sick or annual) for this situation.

For what it's worth, I have enough of both but I don't think it's fair that we have to burn up our personal leave when the federal offices are closed.


Be very careful going down this path...

Offices are closed not because work can't be done, but because commuting isn't safe.
You get the benefit of not commuting. There is no reason why you can't work.

What would you do if federal offices were not closed? Do that thing.


Children at home is actually a reason to not work.

It always has been.


Right, and when it "always has been" what have you done? Answer- take leave.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:28     Subject: Re:Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
Anonymous wrote:Our office says lists power outage and child care as examples of extenuating circumstances to receive paid time off.


Yup. You have to be ~able~ to telework.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:28     Subject: Re:Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
Anonymous wrote:Our office says lists power outage and child care as examples of extenuating circumstances to receive paid time off.


Yea. If I need to care for a family member, I’m taking sick leave, therefore today I’m taking several hours of sick leave.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:27     Subject: Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's unfair that we would have to use our leave (sick or annual) for this situation.

For what it's worth, I have enough of both but I don't think it's fair that we have to burn up our personal leave when the federal offices are closed.


Be very careful going down this path...

Offices are closed not because work can't be done, but because commuting isn't safe.
You get the benefit of not commuting. There is no reason why you can't work.

What would you do if federal offices were not closed? Do that thing.


Children at home is actually a reason to not work.

It always has been.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:26     Subject: Re:Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
Our office says lists power outage and child care as examples of extenuating circumstances to receive paid time off.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:23     Subject: Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
Anonymous wrote:I think it's unfair that we would have to use our leave (sick or annual) for this situation.

For what it's worth, I have enough of both but I don't think it's fair that we have to burn up our personal leave when the federal offices are closed.


Be very careful going down this path...

Offices are closed not because work can't be done, but because commuting isn't safe.
You get the benefit of not commuting. There is no reason why you can't work.

What would you do if federal offices were not closed? Do that thing.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:20     Subject: Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kindergarten and up age kids don't really need that close of supervision.




ES kids goofing off without exercise while parents are working is an emergency room visit waiting to happen in my house.


I can hear your helicopter from here
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:20     Subject: Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
Anonymous wrote:I think it's unfair that we would have to use our leave (sick or annual) for this situation.

For what it's worth, I have enough of both but I don't think it's fair that we have to burn up our personal leave when the federal offices are closed.


So you want to get paid, do no work and not use your leave? Got it.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:17     Subject: Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kindergarten and up age kids don't really need that close of supervision.




ES kids goofing off without exercise while parents are working is an emergency room visit waiting to happen in my house.
Anonymous
Post 01/16/2024 14:17     Subject: Snow day, telework, and kids at home - why no policy yet?
I think it's unfair that we would have to use our leave (sick or annual) for this situation.

For what it's worth, I have enough of both but I don't think it's fair that we have to burn up our personal leave when the federal offices are closed.