Anonymous wrote:Just curious: any of you on here defending Ozempic who aren't taking it?

I don’t take it but I think it obviously is an important medication for *people who actually need it* as long as it is prescribed with full informed consent as to the potential side effects.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

So tired of people who are "almost overweight" thinking they know anything about chronic obesity and the people who have tried every weight loss plan ever, for decades.

I wish you could get an rx for MYOB.

DP. I think these meds are an amazing innovation for people with chronic obesity and diabetes. The problem is the trend of people who don’t need them getting them. That means the risk-benefit profile doesn’t add up. As well, the companies and doctors are not disclosing the risks well enough. There should be a LOT more gatekeeping for these meds.

Who are you to decide who needs what medication? And why is someone else’s risk-benefit calculation any of your business? Why do you think you are the gatekeeper?

Why are people so weird about other peoples’ health decisions that have zero impact on them. It is SO weird.

What’s weird is that you apparently don’t know that balancing risks and benefits of a medication is in fact the cornerstone of our drug regulation framework, as well as informed consent. The problem is that once the drug is approved it can be prescribed “off label” for anyone. In addition, rare but devastating side effects can become apparent only when the drug is prescribed more widely after FDA approval. And of course drug companies can market the drug inappropriately to doctors who then prescribe inappropriately. This results in exactly what we are seeing now: consumer lawsuits against the pharmaceutical companies, malpractice lawsuits, and FDA investigation.

This pattern has played out time and time again for many different medications, not just semiglutides. And the people who should be outraged (second to the ones who suffered significant harms) should be the people for whom the risk-benefit profile makes sense, like the chronically obese and diabetics. Because careless prescribing and unethical marketing is putting your access at risk.

Just curious: any of you on here defending Ozempic who aren't taking it?

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Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

But if you’re not taking it, what’s your concern?

Well, it's hard to watch people make bad decisions for the wrong reasons. I guess it's the same way I feel when I see people spiraling out from drug or alcohol addiction or an eating disorder. I just care, I guess.

You are such a caring person. I’m sure you go out of the way to befriend fat people because you care SO MUCH about them and their well being. Get out of here.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

You’re so awesome and amazing. You’re so much better than all of us morally corrupt folks who have to rely on drugs like Ozempic to finally lose some weight after struggling with diets, restricting food, and exercising religiously FOR DECADES. We should all be in awe of your self control while the rest of us are just inferior and lazy.

🤦🏻‍♀️

You really have no idea what you’re talking about. You ate and drank too much during the pandemic. And now you’re not even overweight. Let me guess: You went from a size 4 to a 10 and have worked your ass off to get back to a 6. Go you!!! Come back when this has been a struggle for decades. You dismiss the “food noise” because you’ve never experienced it.

My guess is that you are someone who thinks people are just making up their depression and should get over themselves because you’ve just been sad a day or two here and there.

This isn’t a drug for people who overate a little bit during the pandemic. Thi

On the contrary, in the last 12 years I have lost two children, my identical twin sister, and my father. I know depression, trust me. I struggle with anxiety daily, including thinking about food and alcohol a lot. I don't think suppressing thoughts about food is healthy. You don't have to be so angry at people--who you don't even know--because we have a difference of opinion. I never said anything at all about the "morality" of these drugs. I said that starving yourself because these drugs suppress your thoughts about food is not healthy. It's just not. But please, do try to keep "guessing" all about me.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why anyone not taking it would be stressed about it.

I’m not stressed about people taking lexapro off label for anxiety, because I’m not a doctor and I’m not taking it. I don’t have any opinion on the medical implications of taking it nor the morality of not meditating instead. Why would I? People are so weird about weight.

+a million. The only explanation is that people don’t like the idea that being fat may be more complicated than morality.

I disagree. I worry greatly about a young relative of mine who has taken so many different medications for anxiety, several of which have had some pretty disastrous effects, instead of getting to the root of the problem. I see this in a lot of young people, actually, and it concerns me. Our society is stuck on shortcuts through drugs and it's not good for us. There's nothing wrong with calling out society's ails and hoping for better.

You are not your relative’s doctor, correct? Or therapist? How do you know they are not trying to get to “the root of the problem”?

This claim to be all-knowing about other peoples’ physical and mental health needs is part of the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

But if you’re not taking it, what’s your concern?

Well, it's hard to watch people make bad decisions for the wrong reasons. I guess it's the same way I feel when I see people spiraling out from drug or alcohol addiction or an eating disorder. I just care, I guess.

lol frame this

^^This isn’t a drug for those that overate during the pandemic. It’s about struggling with weight loss and processing sugars. Believe it or not, we not all built the same. Your shaming off those that have benefited from these drugs really gets at how ugly you really are deep-down: You just want people to keep struggling with their weight so that you can feel better about yourself and continue to judge others.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

But if you’re not taking it, what’s your concern?

Well, it's hard to watch people make bad decisions for the wrong reasons. I guess it's the same way I feel when I see people spiraling out from drug or alcohol addiction or an eating disorder. I just care, I guess.

This post is insane. But explains a lot. You think needing help to lose weight is a moral failing.

Anonymous wrote:Phen-phen

It’s phen-fen.

If you’re going to cite something as an example you should probably be able to spell it correctly, if you want people to take your (false) analogy with a grain of salt.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why anyone not taking it would be stressed about it.

I’m not stressed about people taking lexapro off label for anxiety, because I’m not a doctor and I’m not taking it. I don’t have any opinion on the medical implications of taking it nor the morality of not meditating instead. Why would I? People are so weird about weight.

+a million. The only explanation is that people don’t like the idea that being fat may be more complicated than morality.

I disagree. I worry greatly about a young relative of mine who has taken so many different medications for anxiety, several of which have had some pretty disastrous effects, instead of getting to the root of the problem. I see this in a lot of young people, actually, and it concerns me. Our society is stuck on shortcuts through drugs and it's not good for us. There's nothing wrong with calling out society's ails and hoping for better.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

You’re so awesome and amazing. You’re so much better than all of us morally corrupt folks who have to rely on drugs like Ozempic to finally lose some weight after struggling with diets, restricting food, and exercising religiously FOR DECADES. We should all be in awe of your self control while the rest of us are just inferior and lazy.

🤦🏻‍♀️

You really have no idea what you’re talking about. You ate and drank too much during the pandemic. And now you’re not even overweight. Let me guess: You went from a size 4 to a 10 and have worked your ass off to get back to a 6. Go you!!! Come back when this has been a struggle for decades. You dismiss the “food noise” because you’ve never experienced it.

My guess is that you are someone who thinks people are just making up their depression and should get over themselves because you’ve just been sad a day or two here and there.

This isn’t a drug for people who overate a little bit during the pandemic. Thi

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why anyone not taking it would be stressed about it.

I’m not stressed about people taking lexapro off label for anxiety, because I’m not a doctor and I’m not taking it. I don’t have any opinion on the medical implications of taking it nor the morality of not meditating instead. Why would I? People are so weird about weight.

+a million. The only explanation is that people don’t like the idea that being fat may be more complicated than morality.

Agreed, PP. When 2/3 of Americans are overweight or obese, there's something else at play than morality or a character flaw or laziness or whatever else people think is the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you mad your insurance doesn’t pay for it? What’s your real concern, concern troll?

NP here. Every person who questions the overuse of these new drugs to not have to be bitter trolls. We all know the other shoe is going to drop. This cannot be healthy. We all need to stop talking about "food noise," and just take responsibility for our health by making good choices. Trust me, I struggle every day. I am not in the overweight category, but close and gained a lot of weight, binge eating and drinking too much during the pandemic. Now I am sadly paying the price and controlling my binge eating on my own. It can be done. It's very hard. But there is no way that starving yourself through drugs, while losing muscle, is healthy.

But if you’re not taking it, what’s your concern?

Well, it's hard to watch people make bad decisions for the wrong reasons. I guess it's the same way I feel when I see people spiraling out from drug or alcohol addiction or an eating disorder. I just care, I guess.

Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why anyone not taking it would be stressed about it.

I’m not stressed about people taking lexapro off label for anxiety, because I’m not a doctor and I’m not taking it. I don’t have any opinion on the medical implications of taking it nor the morality of not meditating instead. Why would I? People are so weird about weight.

+a million. The only explanation is that people don’t like the idea that being fat may be more complicated than morality.