Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 22:18     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2

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What’s the typical sequence of math and science classes at BCC then for math loving kids. Next year my son will take geometry in ninth because the school district we are moving from had a slower role in math. He asked if he can take geometry and algebra two at the same time and they didn’t recommend it but said he can take summer school.


For the math loving kids
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Hns Alg 2/Hns Pre- Cal/Cal BC/Multi
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 20:42     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2


What’s the typical sequence of math and science classes at BCC then for math loving kids. Next year my son will take geometry in ninth because the school district we are moving from had a slower role in math. He asked if he can take geometry and algebra two at the same time and they didn’t recommend it but said he can take summer school.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 20:40     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2

What’s the typical sequence of math and science classes at BCC then?
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 19:24     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:B-CC had a meeting about course registration for rising 10th grade parents this week and they said honors physics is a prerequisite for AP physics. That seemed strange to me because it means you’d have to take physics twice if you want to do AP, but a parent asked for clarification and they confirmed that a sophomore wouldn’t be able to take AP physics because they have to take honors physics first. Anyone else hearing this at their HS?


That seems normal to me. Isn't honors chem a prereq for AP chem and honors bio a prereq for AP bio?


Those are more analogous to AP Physics C, not AP Physics 1 which has no prereqs.


BCC offers AP Physics C, not AP Physics 1.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 19:22     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:B-CC had a meeting about course registration for rising 10th grade parents this week and they said honors physics is a prerequisite for AP physics. That seemed strange to me because it means you’d have to take physics twice if you want to do AP, but a parent asked for clarification and they confirmed that a sophomore wouldn’t be able to take AP physics because they have to take honors physics first. Anyone else hearing this at their HS?


That seems normal to me. Isn't honors chem a prereq for AP chem and honors bio a prereq for AP bio?


Those are more analogous to AP Physics C, not AP Physics 1 which has no prereqs.


And people should get over the idea that somehow this class is "easy." Calculus was invented for physics and doing an algebra-based physics class is not always intuitive. The College Board wants an "accessible" version, since not all kids get to Calculus, but has struggled to decide what this class should be.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 19:10     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2

Anonymous wrote:B-CC had a meeting about course registration for rising 10th grade parents this week and they said honors physics is a prerequisite for AP physics. That seemed strange to me because it means you’d have to take physics twice if you want to do AP, but a parent asked for clarification and they confirmed that a sophomore wouldn’t be able to take AP physics because they have to take honors physics first. Anyone else hearing this at their HS?


That's because B-CC only offers AP Physics C, not AP Physics 1. If you want a class that does not have honors precalc as a required, go for the two-year IB Physics class. (It's a two-year sequence either way, given that you have to do honors physics for AP Physics C.)
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 18:54     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2

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Anonymous wrote:B-CC had a meeting about course registration for rising 10th grade parents this week and they said honors physics is a prerequisite for AP physics. That seemed strange to me because it means you’d have to take physics twice if you want to do AP, but a parent asked for clarification and they confirmed that a sophomore wouldn’t be able to take AP physics because they have to take honors physics first. Anyone else hearing this at their HS?


That seems normal to me. Isn't honors chem a prereq for AP chem and honors bio a prereq for AP bio?


Those are more analogous to AP Physics C, not AP Physics 1 which has no prereqs.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 18:35     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2

WJ meeting said that some students could take AP physics in 9th. Only a few kids do it but that seemed absurd to me.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 12:15     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2

Anonymous wrote:B-CC had a meeting about course registration for rising 10th grade parents this week and they said honors physics is a prerequisite for AP physics. That seemed strange to me because it means you’d have to take physics twice if you want to do AP, but a parent asked for clarification and they confirmed that a sophomore wouldn’t be able to take AP physics because they have to take honors physics first. Anyone else hearing this at their HS?


That seems normal to me. Isn't honors chem a prereq for AP chem and honors bio a prereq for AP bio?
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 12:11     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:B-CC had a meeting about course registration for rising 10th grade parents this week and they said honors physics is a prerequisite for AP physics. That seemed strange to me because it means you’d have to take physics twice if you want to do AP, but a parent asked for clarification and they confirmed that a sophomore wouldn’t be able to take AP physics because they have to take honors physics first. Anyone else hearing this at their HS?


That’s how it is with a lot of AP classes and exactly how it use to be in the beginning. Kids would take basic or honors levels of a class, determine they liked the subject area and wanted more depth and rigor and then take an AP. So intro bio and then AP Bio later in HS. Why student and parents now think they should be able to just jump into AP classes I don’t know.

Take Hn Physics and then Physic C.


Yes. It's only in recent years that I've seen MCPS pushing kids directly into AP-level courses which is odd to me.


Since all classes are now H level that is effectively grade level. The non grade level kids have to go to AP


Stop. All classes are not honors level.


Exactly. It’s a false statement. Kids should take the level they are prepared to take. Then teachers wouldn’t have kids in AP Physics I without a prayer of passing the class nor exam unless the teacher then goes through the process of teaching study skills and the math needed to survive plus giving up their planning and lunch periods to reteaching. Stop this game of having kids trying to one up each other by taking the most APs possible only to need expensive tutors and therapy to survive HS.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 11:16     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:B-CC had a meeting about course registration for rising 10th grade parents this week and they said honors physics is a prerequisite for AP physics. That seemed strange to me because it means you’d have to take physics twice if you want to do AP, but a parent asked for clarification and they confirmed that a sophomore wouldn’t be able to take AP physics because they have to take honors physics first. Anyone else hearing this at their HS?


That’s how it is with a lot of AP classes and exactly how it use to be in the beginning. Kids would take basic or honors levels of a class, determine they liked the subject area and wanted more depth and rigor and then take an AP. So intro bio and then AP Bio later in HS. Why student and parents now think they should be able to just jump into AP classes I don’t know.

Take Hn Physics and then Physic C.


Yes. It's only in recent years that I've seen MCPS pushing kids directly into AP-level courses which is odd to me.


Since all classes are now H level that is effectively grade level. The non grade level kids have to go to AP


Stop. All classes are not honors level.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 11:14     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:B-CC had a meeting about course registration for rising 10th grade parents this week and they said honors physics is a prerequisite for AP physics. That seemed strange to me because it means you’d have to take physics twice if you want to do AP, but a parent asked for clarification and they confirmed that a sophomore wouldn’t be able to take AP physics because they have to take honors physics first. Anyone else hearing this at their HS?


That’s how it is with a lot of AP classes and exactly how it use to be in the beginning. Kids would take basic or honors levels of a class, determine they liked the subject area and wanted more depth and rigor and then take an AP. So intro bio and then AP Bio later in HS. Why student and parents now think they should be able to just jump into AP classes I don’t know.

Take Hn Physics and then Physic C.


Yes. It's only in recent years that I've seen MCPS pushing kids directly into AP-level courses which is odd to me.


Since all classes are now H level that is effectively grade level. The non grade level kids have to go to AP
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 11:05     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:B-CC had a meeting about course registration for rising 10th grade parents this week and they said honors physics is a prerequisite for AP physics. That seemed strange to me because it means you’d have to take physics twice if you want to do AP, but a parent asked for clarification and they confirmed that a sophomore wouldn’t be able to take AP physics because they have to take honors physics first. Anyone else hearing this at their HS?


That’s how it is with a lot of AP classes and exactly how it use to be in the beginning. Kids would take basic or honors levels of a class, determine they liked the subject area and wanted more depth and rigor and then take an AP. So intro bio and then AP Bio later in HS. Why student and parents now think they should be able to just jump into AP classes I don’t know.

Take Hn Physics and then Physic C.


Yes. It's only in recent years that I've seen MCPS pushing kids directly into AP-level courses which is odd to me.
Anonymous
Post 01/15/2024 10:58     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2

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Anonymous wrote:Do not take the AP Physics without the Alg 2. AP Physics 1 is one of the lowest passed exams. You can search this forum for many conversations about Physics.

+1
I’ve taught 10th graders in AP Physics 1 who were talking Algebra 2 concurrently. Smart kids, but they struggled all year, earning Cs and 2s on the exam. It’s not simple plug and chug algebra problems. It’s abstract reasoning across multiple concepts with formula manipulation.

Your child should take chemistry in 10th and wait until they take calculus to take AP Physics C at the same time.


My DC took AP Calc and AP Physics C at the same time. It would have been better to have taken Calc AB before AP Physics C. We hired a tutor to give him the Calc part upfront, so he managed but without that it would have been a sh$&$show.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2024 15:10     Subject: AP physics without Algebra 2

Anonymous wrote:B-CC had a meeting about course registration for rising 10th grade parents this week and they said honors physics is a prerequisite for AP physics. That seemed strange to me because it means you’d have to take physics twice if you want to do AP, but a parent asked for clarification and they confirmed that a sophomore wouldn’t be able to take AP physics because they have to take honors physics first. Anyone else hearing this at their HS?


That’s how it is with a lot of AP classes and exactly how it use to be in the beginning. Kids would take basic or honors levels of a class, determine they liked the subject area and wanted more depth and rigor and then take an AP. So intro bio and then AP Bio later in HS. Why student and parents now think they should be able to just jump into AP classes I don’t know.

Take Hn Physics and then Physic C.