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Anonymous wrote:DS is a high-to-middle of the road student stats wise. 3.8, 1180. He is a great athlete but not recruited. He would play club level in college, though.

His father graduated magna cum laude from this school in undergraduate and went on to earn his masters there as well. His father earned his JD from there. My father taught medicine there for 22 years.

DS has never expressed interest in attending until yesterday. I can't name the school, but for sake of argument lets assume it is Yale.

Is there any chance he would be offered a spot?

Legacy matters less and less. And nothing is happening with an 1180. Definitely don't submit that. A 3.8 is going to be regarded differently depending on the school. Public students with all the APs are rolling with 4.8s. Rigorous courses will matter. So will ECs. And recommendations.

I don't think Yale level schools are realistic.

Ha.

DP. My DD just got ED at UVA with an 1180 and no hooks. We are white and full pay, no legacy.

OP- know that this forum in particlaur is about 7 angry women that want to sh*t on your kid's dreams, that is it.

A nonlegacy applying test optional ED to UVA is not the same situation as a legacy applying to Yale.

Legacies apply TO to Cornell/Northwestern /Brown all the time. And get in

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Anonymous wrote:DS is a high-to-middle of the road student stats wise. 3.8, 1180. He is a great athlete but not recruited. He would play club level in college, though.

His father graduated magna cum laude from this school in undergraduate and went on to earn his masters there as well. His father earned his JD from there. My father taught medicine there for 22 years.

DS has never expressed interest in attending until yesterday. I can't name the school, but for sake of argument lets assume it is Yale.

Is there any chance he would be offered a spot?

OP, DS had slightly lower GPA, much higher test score, a DH w/distinguished alum award (not for service to school but outstanding professional accomplishments), and multigenerational legacy - CCO waved him off as he would get a courtesy deferral followed by a rejection in RD. Basically had already happened to his second cousins.

Chances are probably low to zilch, especially if there are other legacies in class with stronger stats.

This. I was just about to type this. It probably depends a lot on who else is applying from his class.
My kids attend a DC private school where easily 10 legacies apply to Yale each year. Only about 1/10 gets in--and that one usually has top grades as well. The other 9/10 legacies do not get in.

Then at the university level--they may have years when a ton of faculty members' kids or grandkids apply and years when none do. That may factor in to this as well. For example, if this year they have 20 tenured faculty with top notch kids applying to undergrad they probably don't have room in that bucket for your kid. Another year? Who knows!

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Anonymous wrote:My wife's father was Chief of Medicine for 28 years at a T20. She got in when she shouldn't have and so did my nephew.

Their ages and years in which they applied?

+1

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Anonymous wrote:DS is a high-to-middle of the road student stats wise. 3.8, 1180. He is a great athlete but not recruited. He would play club level in college, though.

His father graduated magna cum laude from this school in undergraduate and went on to earn his masters there as well. His father earned his JD from there. My father taught medicine there for 22 years.

DS has never expressed interest in attending until yesterday. I can't name the school, but for sake of argument lets assume it is Yale.

Is there any chance he would be offered a spot?

Legacy matters less and less. And nothing is happening with an 1180. Definitely don't submit that. A 3.8 is going to be regarded differently depending on the school. Public students with all the APs are rolling with 4.8s. Rigorous courses will matter. So will ECs. And recommendations.

I don't think Yale level schools are realistic.

Ha.

DP. My DD just got ED at UVA with an 1180 and no hooks. We are white and full pay, no legacy.

OP- know that this forum in particlaur is about 7 angry women that want to sh*t on your kid's dreams, that is it.

A nonlegacy applying test optional ED to UVA is not the same situation as a legacy applying to Yale.

+1

Though both (at least UVA) needs women in STEM - most colleges are 60/40 women/men, these days.

Anonymous wrote:If its Harvard then you get a bump from a parent/grandparent working there. I know this as relatives work for Harvard specifically for this reason and plenty if their coworkers take advantage of this.

Working or worked? Don’t think much of a bump for past tense.

Anonymous wrote:My wife's father was Chief of Medicine for 28 years at a T20. She got in when she shouldn't have and so did my nephew.

Their ages and years in which they applied?

Anonymous wrote:DS is a high-to-middle of the road student stats wise. 3.8, 1180. He is a great athlete but not recruited. He would play club level in college, though.

His father graduated magna cum laude from this school in undergraduate and went on to earn his masters there as well. His father earned his JD from there. My father taught medicine there for 22 years.

DS has never expressed interest in attending until yesterday. I can't name the school, but for sake of argument lets assume it is Yale.

Is there any chance he would be offered a spot?

OP, DS had slightly lower GPA, much higher test score, a DH w/distinguished alum award (not for service to school but outstanding professional accomplishments), and multigenerational legacy - CCO waved him off as he would get a courtesy deferral followed by a rejection in RD. Basically had already happened to his second cousins.

Chances are probably low to zilch, especially if there are other legacies in class with stronger stats.

The kid with the highest stats was rejected from Yale. Meanwhile, multi gen legacy accepted and legacy deferred. Tell me it doesn’t make a difference. Legacy helps in ED round but there are levels of legacy. $$ helps the most.

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Anonymous wrote:DS is a high-to-middle of the road student stats wise. 3.8, 1180. He is a great athlete but not recruited. He would play club level in college, though.

His father graduated magna cum laude from this school in undergraduate and went on to earn his masters there as well. His father earned his JD from there. My father taught medicine there for 22 years.

DS has never expressed interest in attending until yesterday. I can't name the school, but for sake of argument lets assume it is Yale.

Is there any chance he would be offered a spot?

Legacy matters less and less. And nothing is happening with an 1180. Definitely don't submit that. A 3.8 is going to be regarded differently depending on the school. Public students with all the APs are rolling with 4.8s. Rigorous courses will matter. So will ECs. And recommendations.

I don't think Yale level schools are realistic.

Ha.

DP. My DD just got ED at UVA with an 1180 and no hooks. We are white and full pay, no legacy.

OP- know that this forum in particlaur is about 7 angry women that want to sh*t on your kid's dreams, that is it.

For real?

An 1180 is all it takes for UVA.

Informative.

I'm guessing that the daughter applied test optional. I just don't see how she would have been admitted otherwise (without special hooks). Also, regarding the OP - I guess it never hurts to try. However, usually people who get admitted with "hooks" still have stats that are somewhat in the ballpark (i.e. maybe a recruited athlete with a 1350 gets into Princeton; while a 1350 is very low for Harvard, it's still within range to be offset by a significant hook). 1180 would be much more difficult to overcome unless you're David Hogg and did something that garnered wide public attention (nationally/internationally). Still - who knows, maybe those connections with the school have far more weight than I realize.

There is always a chance but with those middling stats that chance is small and frankly, compared to others applying I don't see why they would take him/her. The stats are too weak to make up for legacy RD given the caliber of other students applying (and frankly would be unfair to others if he/she stole a spot from someone with better stats)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is a high-to-middle of the road student stats wise. 3.8, 1180. He is a great athlete but not recruited. He would play club level in college, though.

His father graduated magna cum laude from this school in undergraduate and went on to earn his masters there as well. His father earned his JD from there. My father taught medicine there for 22 years.

DS has never expressed interest in attending until yesterday. I can't name the school, but for sake of argument lets assume it is Yale.

Is there any chance he would be offered a spot?

Legacy matters less and less. And nothing is happening with an 1180. Definitely don't submit that. A 3.8 is going to be regarded differently depending on the school. Public students with all the APs are rolling with 4.8s. Rigorous courses will matter. So will ECs. And recommendations.

I don't think Yale level schools are realistic.

Ha.

DP. My DD just got ED at UVA with an 1180 and no hooks. We are white and full pay, no legacy.

OP- know that this forum in particlaur is about 7 angry women that want to sh*t on your kid's dreams, that is it.

A nonlegacy applying test optional ED to UVA is not the same situation as a legacy applying to Yale.

Agreed. The UVA scenario is the more difficult one.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is a high-to-middle of the road student stats wise. 3.8, 1180. He is a great athlete but not recruited. He would play club level in college, though.

His father graduated magna cum laude from this school in undergraduate and went on to earn his masters there as well. His father earned his JD from there. My father taught medicine there for 22 years.

DS has never expressed interest in attending until yesterday. I can't name the school, but for sake of argument lets assume it is Yale.

Is there any chance he would be offered a spot?

Legacy matters less and less. And nothing is happening with an 1180. Definitely don't submit that. A 3.8 is going to be regarded differently depending on the school. Public students with all the APs are rolling with 4.8s. Rigorous courses will matter. So will ECs. And recommendations.

I don't think Yale level schools are realistic.

Ha.

DP. My DD just got ED at UVA with an 1180 and no hooks. We are white and full pay, no legacy.

OP- know that this forum in particlaur is about 7 angry women that want to sh*t on your kid's dreams, that is it.

For real?

An 1180 is all it takes for UVA.

Informative.

OP, exactly how money have you or your relatives given to this institution.?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is a high-to-middle of the road student stats wise. 3.8, 1180. He is a great athlete but not recruited. He would play club level in college, though.

His father graduated magna cum laude from this school in undergraduate and went on to earn his masters there as well. His father earned his JD from there. My father taught medicine there for 22 years.

DS has never expressed interest in attending until yesterday. I can't name the school, but for sake of argument lets assume it is Yale.

Is there any chance he would be offered a spot?

Legacy matters less and less. And nothing is happening with an 1180. Definitely don't submit that. A 3.8 is going to be regarded differently depending on the school. Public students with all the APs are rolling with 4.8s. Rigorous courses will matter. So will ECs. And recommendations.

I don't think Yale level schools are realistic.

Ha.

DP. My DD just got ED at UVA with an 1180 and no hooks. We are white and full pay, no legacy.

OP- know that this forum in particlaur is about 7 angry women that want to sh*t on your kid's dreams, that is it.

A nonlegacy applying test optional ED to UVA is not the same situation as a legacy applying to Yale.

My wife's father was Chief of Medicine for 28 years at a T20. She got in when she shouldn't have and so did my nephew.