Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 22:13     Subject: Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
Anonymous wrote:DS24 applied to 20. I thought he was crazy at the time in August but I’m so glad he didn’t listen to me. This cycle is a bloodbath. All apps were completed by November 1. Had 4 acceptances with great merit in August- September. 3 more in acceptances in October. One in December. 3 deferrals and waiting on 9 more. Friends who only applied to 5 or less got clobbered and were panic applying over break. He feels really good about his current choices come what may for the others.


How is it a "bloodbath" if he's been accepted to 8 schools so far?


Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 21:51     Subject: Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
DS24 applied to 20. I thought he was crazy at the time in August but I’m so glad he didn’t listen to me. This cycle is a bloodbath. All apps were completed by November 1. Had 4 acceptances with great merit in August- September. 3 more in acceptances in October. One in December. 3 deferrals and waiting on 9 more. Friends who only applied to 5 or less got clobbered and were panic applying over break. He feels really good about his current choices come what may for the others.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 21:41     Subject: Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
Anonymous wrote:DD just finished tonight. She applied to 20 and was going to add another one but we told her to Stop! The deferral makes them doubt themselves and they over compensate by over applying. It is so terribly stressful for these kids. Purely anecdotal but many high stats unhooked kids were shut out of ED/EA. The kids who got in had lower stats but were multi-legacy, money, or sports. This really pushes the rejects to apply to many more schools. ED2 and RD will be interesting.




Yes.

The "hooked" thing makes everything weird and unpredictable at the top schools. A mediocre athlete who could never play serious D1, inherited wealth, the color of someone's skin, where the parents went to college, a prominent name - it's very annoying that these things matter. But they do.

And so the smart kids are scrambling. There aren't a lot of spots for them at Harvard or Yale.

And so they shotgun after an ED rejection or deferral. Which, of course, reduces the RD acceptance rates even further at most competitive schools.

Very stressful for bright, ambitious kids who weren't born with a "hook."
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 21:12     Subject: Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Isn't this going to just shut out kids who are below top the 10% of a high school class from any top 40 schools?
I worry about this. If you have your very top students applying everywhere in mass then the next level looks comparatively lousy and what happens to them?

this is especially true in privates when you may have 10 kids who have a 3.95. If they apply everywhere, what happens to the 3.7-3.8s? Traditionally they would get some spots at top 40 schools that the top 10 students ts did not apply to or matriculate to.

I assume the 3.5 or so (at privates where this can be half of the class) and below apply to different schools entirely.


My high star kid added more reaches. Still the same safety, targets. So the larger number reflects T1-T25 schools.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 21:07     Subject: Re:Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kid was at 8, but than a deferral that should have been a sure thing (according to counselors, ppl at school, etc) made my kid panic and submit a bunch more over break. He was always going to be around 6-8. If he had gotten into the EA--he would have stopped. He ended up doing 9 over break for a total of 17 which seems crazy to us. But, I'm hearing it's norm for kids with his stats (UW 4.0, high scores, etc)


same in our house - a defer from what was expected to be an admit (coach support + scores & GPA >50%) + ED rejection means went from 8 to 15 over the break... friends at top tier NE boarding school are talking 25


Can you share the school?
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 21:06     Subject: Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes--think the ED deferrals/declines spur kids to add a ton of schools.


This is us here. The ED1 reject was disappointing but it was the deferral from a safety that made us added more schools to the list. Really worried about shut out at this point.


What school?
Stats?
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 21:05     Subject: Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
Omg you all
Are absolutely absurd

Buying into OOS tuition unless an OOS school can guarantee a job you people are dumb financially.

I’ll keep our money we live in a $12 million house with owning other homes. Yeah financial decisions are important so is a good education it’s a gift. You all failed the test.

Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 21:00     Subject: Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
Anonymous wrote:DD just finished tonight. She applied to 20 and was going to add another one but we told her to Stop! The deferral makes them doubt themselves and they over compensate by over applying. It is so terribly stressful for these kids. Purely anecdotal but many high stats unhooked kids were shut out of ED/EA. The kids who got in had lower stats but were multi-legacy, money, or sports. This really pushes the rejects to apply to many more schools. ED2 and RD will be interesting.

Yes. 💯
This has happened.


Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 20:59     Subject: Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Yes--think the ED deferrals/declines spur kids to add a ton of schools.


This is us here. The ED1 reject was disappointing but it was the deferral from a safety that made us added more schools to the list. Really worried about shut out at this point.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 20:54     Subject: Re:Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Do you think schools talk to see if kid A applied to all the ivys or the T40 to figure out yield?


No.

There will just be a ton of movement off of weightless in a lot of shuffling in April.

I’m seeing 25-30 schools in a wide range now recommended by our private’s CCO for some boys stuck in no man’s land (3.75-3.85 uw and 33-34+ACT).

My kid added 10 after Dec 15, and is now at 22. Will add some Jan 15 deadlines this weekend too as backup.
Final # likely 25+
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 20:44     Subject: Re:Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
Do you think schools talk to see if kid A applied to all the ivys or the T40 to figure out yield?
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 20:38     Subject: Re:Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
Anonymous wrote:My kid was at 8, but than a deferral that should have been a sure thing (according to counselors, ppl at school, etc) made my kid panic and submit a bunch more over break. He was always going to be around 6-8. If he had gotten into the EA--he would have stopped. He ended up doing 9 over break for a total of 17 which seems crazy to us. But, I'm hearing it's norm for kids with his stats (UW 4.0, high scores, etc)


same in our house - a defer from what was expected to be an admit (coach support + scores & GPA >50%) + ED rejection means went from 8 to 15 over the break... friends at top tier NE boarding school are talking 25
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 20:30     Subject: Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
Anonymous wrote:Isn't this going to just shut out kids who are below top the 10% of a high school class from any top 40 schools?
I worry about this. If you have your very top students applying everywhere in mass then the next level looks comparatively lousy and what happens to them?

this is especially true in privates when you may have 10 kids who have a 3.95. If they apply everywhere, what happens to the 3.7-3.8s? Traditionally they would get some spots at top 40 schools that the top 10 students ts did not apply to or matriculate to.

I assume the 3.5 or so (at privates where this can be half of the class) and below apply to different schools entirely.


This is happening this year….
Bloodbath.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 19:48     Subject: Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
Anonymous wrote:A decent amount towards application fees. At least $1k.

DCUM crowd and application fee waivers? Nah.


This and - Unless you can afford it, I don't see the point of applying for that many schools.

Most schools are not worth full pay or taking a loan. Flagship as OOS is not only expensive but also not easy to get in.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 19:33     Subject: Anyone’s kid apply to more than 20 schools?
A decent amount towards application fees. At least $1k.

DCUM crowd and application fee waivers? Nah.