Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:38     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
It is multi faceted.

Physical differences and evolutionary biology play a part.

But largely it’s how the patriarchy has successfully brainwashed women into believing that debasing themselves to suit male sexual preferences is empowering.

Men love when “feminism” preaches “sex work is work” and stripping = empowerment because it suits them to keep women in subordinate positions.

Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:37     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because some women uphold it. Particularly mothers of sons.


And mothers of daughters. And women who are not mothers. And guys, too. But mostly women.


Yep - see the the forum about why people, mainly women, put their kids in different activities. Or pretty much all the other forums too. The sexism is just as rife with women as it is with men. Women have internalize their lower position and proliferate it to their daughters, judge their friends and all other women who make different decisions to them.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:37     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know we like to blame men, and that's definitely a big part of it, but I think we need to look at the issue other women bring to it as well. This forum is a good example to see how women play a part in contributing to the patriarchy. Shaming women for working, shaming women for putting themselves first, shaming women for staying at home, shame, shame, shame. Im real life, I've dealt with female managers trying to tear me down because the big boss has liked my ideas. I've seen people talk shit about a female boss for no reason other than she was a powerful female.

So yes, men play a huge role. But ignoring how we contribute to it too will never get the issue solved.



All of this. The patriarchy persists because internalized misogyny is everywhere and there are insufficient social supports for women with professional ambition who'd also like to be good, engaged mothers.



Yes and yes.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:36     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
Anonymous wrote:Definitely women contribute to this problem. Particularly right wing uneducated Christian women who still believe their role is mother/homemaker, supporting their man.


Well, we don't need women like you in charge, that's for sure.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:35     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
Anonymous wrote:Definitely women contribute to this problem. Particularly right wing uneducated Christian women who still believe their role is mother/homemaker, supporting their man.


Wow, bigot much?
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:34     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
Anonymous wrote:Because some women uphold it. Particularly mothers of sons.


+1
And some women don't want to lose the social status attached to their rich white man. I've seen many SAHMs who love to brag about their husband's career as if it were their own accomplishment.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:34     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
Because literally the ONLY thing even WORSE than having men in charge, would be having women in charge.

It should be AI. Or a lottery/randomized number generator. The Moon. But as it is, the patriarchy is the second worst option there is.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:33     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
Women also help to keep it alive.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:31     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
Anonymous wrote:Definitely women contribute to this problem. Particularly right wing uneducated Christian women who still believe their role is mother/homemaker, supporting their man.


I'm a left wing and very educated but begrudgingly admit that my role as mother and homemaker has been exponentially better for my children and my husband's career. Which means better for my life but short term and long term. We could have switched roles but while I could have made what DH makes (which is a lot), he would have been mediocre at raising the kids and keeping our house running. American society is barely set up for 2 working parents, let alone 2 working parents who want to have high-achieving, well-adjusted kids and happy parents. That's why the patriarchy is alive and well.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:28     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
OP, please direct your question all the women who seek to marry a rich, powerful man. Also, see the "I feel I’m too good for most single men" thread...
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:24     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Definitely women contribute to this problem. Particularly right wing uneducated Christian women who still believe their role is mother/homemaker, supporting their man.


Er...


It all goes back to the shame a PP mentioned. Being a Christian woman who loves her role as a homemaker is a shameful thing, at least according to women.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:21     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
Anonymous wrote:Definitely women contribute to this problem. Particularly right wing uneducated Christian women who still believe their role is mother/homemaker, supporting their man.


Er...
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:21     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
Anonymous wrote:Because no one wants the alternative. Not women, not men.


The alternative is what? Equal treatment? Who doesn't want that?
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:21     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
Definitely women contribute to this problem. Particularly right wing uneducated Christian women who still believe their role is mother/homemaker, supporting their man.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2024 11:19     Subject: Why is the patriarchy still alive and well?
Anonymous wrote:Because it works


This is exactly it.