Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 18:45     Subject: Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
The vast majority of students taking advantage of the stay until the terminal grade policy are likely mid and upper elementary school children in all wards who moved a small distance away because of a rent increase, home purchase, family/custody change, etc. and chose to stay enrolled at their established school for continuity/social reasons and not people who are gaming the system to attend Deal/JR.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 16:49     Subject: Re:Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We just moved to Virginia, also Virginia requires that you paid taxes for a certain number of schools to qualify for in state tuition and VA has better colleges.


Correction: taxes for a certain number of years


For how many years?
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 10:36     Subject: Re:Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
Anonymous wrote:We just moved to Virginia, also Virginia requires that you paid taxes for a certain number of schools to qualify for in state tuition and VA has better colleges.


Correction: taxes for a certain number of years
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 10:33     Subject: Re:Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
We just moved to Virginia, also Virginia requires that you paid taxes for a certain number of schools to qualify for in state tuition and VA has better colleges.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 10:08     Subject: Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You need to re establish residency every year. So not a one time thing.
I think theoretically you could rent for only one month, get the require bills and documentation to submit for residency verification. Then, never get asked again until the following year.
You could be audited though, no idea how common that is.


No, this is incorrect. If you live in the school zone on day 1 of school you get the right to stay at the school through graduation, even if you move elsewhere in DC. You do actually have to live there at some point.


PP stating that you get to stay through school's terminal grade is correct - see the handbook at p. 11.

https://enrolldcps.dc.gov/sites/dcpsenrollment/files/page_content/attachments/SY23-24%20Enrollment%20and%20Lottery%20Handbook%20FINAL.pdf


Yes, this is correct. And so stupid.



It’s not stupid. It’s good for kids to not have to change schools due to their parents having to move


No, it’s stupid because it creates perverse incentives and encourages gaming. Rent for three months, stay for seven years.



Good lord. There are many more homeless and housing unstable children in DC than UMC system gamers. The policy is written for those children, and written broadly to minimize the administrative burden on those families. If they put threshold eligibility requirements on the policy, then there would have to be a verification process that would serve as a barrier to the most needful families from using the policy as intended. DC doesn't care if a few high SES families also take advantage of the policy, because it is administratively simpler for the schools and families to make it over inclusive. And every higher SES kid that's taking a seat at your Ward 3 school is also a family that stays in DC and pays taxes instead of moving to Maryland.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 09:27     Subject: Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You need to re establish residency every year. So not a one time thing.
I think theoretically you could rent for only one month, get the require bills and documentation to submit for residency verification. Then, never get asked again until the following year.
You could be audited though, no idea how common that is.


No, this is incorrect. If you live in the school zone on day 1 of school you get the right to stay at the school through graduation, even if you move elsewhere in DC. You do actually have to live there at some point.


PP stating that you get to stay through school's terminal grade is correct - see the handbook at p. 11.

https://enrolldcps.dc.gov/sites/dcpsenrollment/files/page_content/attachments/SY23-24%20Enrollment%20and%20Lottery%20Handbook%20FINAL.pdf


Yes, this is correct. And so stupid.



It’s not stupid. It’s good for kids to not have to change schools due to their parents having to move


No, it’s stupid because it creates perverse incentives and encourages gaming. Rent for three months, stay for seven years.

Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 08:05     Subject: Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
My work will put any address on my paycheck. One paycheck is enough to prove address.
We have a gentleman who works in our building as a concierge and uses one of the 'apartments' as his home address. It's actually a broom closet. Nobody check or cares.
If I were you, I'd just rent a studio and really live there for a year. The kid can walk to school.
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 05:25     Subject: Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You need to re establish residency every year. So not a one time thing.
I think theoretically you could rent for only one month, get the require bills and documentation to submit for residency verification. Then, never get asked again until the following year.
You could be audited though, no idea how common that is.


No, this is incorrect. If you live in the school zone on day 1 of school you get the right to stay at the school through graduation, even if you move elsewhere in DC. You do actually have to live there at some point.


PP stating that you get to stay through school's terminal grade is correct - see the handbook at p. 11.

https://enrolldcps.dc.gov/sites/dcpsenrollment/files/page_content/attachments/SY23-24%20Enrollment%20and%20Lottery%20Handbook%20FINAL.pdf


Yes, this is correct. And so stupid.



It’s not stupid. It’s good for kids to not have to change schools due to their parents having to move
Anonymous
Post 01/09/2024 05:20     Subject: Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You need to re establish residency every year. So not a one time thing.
I think theoretically you could rent for only one month, get the require bills and documentation to submit for residency verification. Then, never get asked again until the following year.
You could be audited though, no idea how common that is.


No, this is incorrect. If you live in the school zone on day 1 of school you get the right to stay at the school through graduation, even if you move elsewhere in DC. You do actually have to live there at some point.


It's the terminal grade at the school. For high school that's graduation, but someone who moves oob for elementary school only has the right to stay through 5th, not the right to continue to the destination middle and high school.

I don't like this rule and hope it changes, but I doubt it will.


While the rule is in place, it is almost never enforced which is why you can't rank your OOB MS for the 6th grade lottery. If you want to attend, you can. Call the school if you have more questions
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2024 11:21     Subject: Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
You do not need to rent an apartment. In fact, just the opposite. You need to rent your house out and become homeless.

If you own a home and rent a home, you have to convince DCPS that you actually live in the house you are renting and not just renting it to commit fraud.

If you rent your house, you are homeless. Homeless families have the right to attend any DCPS school. In my case, we truly were homeless in the sense that we had sold our house prior to moving to DC and had not yet closed on our house when school started. We were living out of hotels.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2024 09:26     Subject: Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
Anonymous wrote:We are attending inboundary 5th grade renting and I wanted to do lottery for the out of boundary home I own but it said I automatically qualified for both the current sixth grade feeder and inboundary MS where I own so it didn’t even let me rank the feeder MS


Interesting, how did the application know you had the OOB home? Did you enter that information somewhere?
Anonymous
Post 01/07/2024 12:21     Subject: Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
We are attending inboundary 5th grade renting and I wanted to do lottery for the out of boundary home I own but it said I automatically qualified for both the current sixth grade feeder and inboundary MS where I own so it didn’t even let me rank the feeder MS
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2024 18:09     Subject: Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
I’d play it safe folks. Go the extra mile.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2024 16:30     Subject: Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You do actually have to live in the apartment you rent though. if you own a place elsewhere, you should stop the homestead exemption on it. and you should change your voter registration.


To clarify, you have to make it look like you actually live in the apt you rent. You can sublet it easily enough, preferably to relatives or friends. Yes, stop the homestead exemption elsewhere and change voter registration to the apartment's address. Also change your drivers license and file income tax from the apt address as soon as you can. As long as you can pick up mail at the apt. regularly, things work out. Getting audited is really rare and not a threat if you have the residency docs and tax returns. We know families in Ward 6 who've done this for HS at J-R rather than move from the DC. These are people who didn't get into an acceptable DC public high school, couldn't afford private and hit the wall with BASIS for kids who hated their MS.


That is all unnecessary. You need to do the following things under DCPS policy: (1) verify you live IB when you enroll; (2) actually attend the school for some point in time; (3) notify the school when you move OOB.

Where a PK-12 student has been attending an in-boundary school and then moves out of boundary while remaining in the District of Columbia, the student has the right to attend their new in-boundary school. The student may also continue to attend the current school through the end of the school’s terminal grade. All families are required to notify the school of any change of residence within three (3) school days of such change.


The easiest way to verify residency is to change the address on your paystubs, but you don't need to change your driver's license or file taxes because you don't need to maintain continuous residency. You just report that you moved away and are still a DC resident, then you can use your OOB address until the terminal grade at the school.
Anonymous
Post 01/03/2024 15:49     Subject: Rent an apartment inbounds for J-R or MacArthur
Anonymous wrote:You do actually have to live in the apartment you rent though. if you own a place elsewhere, you should stop the homestead exemption on it. and you should change your voter registration.


To clarify, you have to make it look like you actually live in the apt you rent. You can sublet it easily enough, preferably to relatives or friends. Yes, stop the homestead exemption elsewhere and change voter registration to the apartment's address. Also change your drivers license and file income tax from the apt address as soon as you can. As long as you can pick up mail at the apt. regularly, things work out. Getting audited is really rare and not a threat if you have the residency docs and tax returns. We know families in Ward 6 who've done this for HS at J-R rather than move from the DC. These are people who didn't get into an acceptable DC public high school, couldn't afford private and hit the wall with BASIS for kids who hated their MS.