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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand the Colby thing. I know three kids there now who didn’t get into schools with higher acceptance rates (Middlebury, BC and Brown). But maybe the key is that the kids I know are all full pay?

Colby is need-aware, has no application fee, and no supplemental essay, so lots of kids just tick that box off to apply using the common app.

It’s also one of the few colleges that doesn’t make public its common data set.

They’re playing games—but acceptance rate has a much lower weight in USNews than it used to, so they’re where they belong in the ranking.

I wonder why some thinks Colby is the only school who plays these “Games”.

No application fee schools : Wellesley, Tulane, Carleton, Grinnell, Colorado, Macalester, Smith, Trinity
Need aware schools: Carleton, Colgate, BU, WL, Wesleyan, Case Western, Bates, Colorado, Haverford, Smith, Pitzer, Oberlin
No Supplement essay : Grinnell, Middlebury, Colgate, Hamilton, Case Western, Oberlin, Bates, NEU, Pitt, wesleyan, Kenyon

To name a few.
Can you just accept the fact that a lot of kids wants to go there?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand the Colby thing. I know three kids there now who didn’t get into schools with higher acceptance rates (Middlebury, BC and Brown). But maybe the key is that the kids I know are all full pay?

Colby is need-aware, has no application fee, and no supplemental essay, so lots of kids just tick that box off to apply using the common app.

It’s also one of the few colleges that doesn’t make public its common data set.

They’re playing games—but acceptance rate has a much lower weight in USNews than it used to, so they’re where they belong in the ranking.

I agree. There is nothing special about Colby.

My kid is at Colby and having a terrific experience and getting an excellent education. We are very happy with the school.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand the Colby thing. I know three kids there now who didn’t get into schools with higher acceptance rates (Middlebury, BC and Brown). But maybe the key is that the kids I know are all full pay?

Colby is need-aware, has no application fee, and no supplemental essay, so lots of kids just tick that box off to apply using the common app.

It’s also one of the few colleges that doesn’t make public its common data set.

They’re playing games—but acceptance rate has a much lower weight in USNews than it used to, so they’re where they belong in the ranking.

I agree. There is nothing special about Colby.

it's interesting that the widely considered top 2- amherst and williams- are not in the top 5

hypms dominate the lowest acceptance, with caltech/columbia along the side

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand the Colby thing. I know three kids there now who didn’t get into schools with higher acceptance rates (Middlebury, BC and Brown). But maybe the key is that the kids I know are all full pay?

Colby is need-aware, has no application fee, and no supplemental essay, so lots of kids just tick that box off to apply using the common app.

It’s also one of the few colleges that doesn’t make public its common data set.

They’re playing games—but acceptance rate has a much lower weight in USNews than it used to, so they’re where they belong in the ranking.

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Anonymous wrote:

Neo wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand the Colby thing. I know three kids there now who didn’t get into schools with higher acceptance rates (Middlebury, BC and Brown). But maybe the key is that the kids I know are all full pay?

Colby is need-blind for both international and domestic students. That's one of the reasons that it's so hard to get into.

And there is no fee to apply. I am not sure, whether Colby is need blind.

No application fee and no supplement. Colby gets one of the highest number of applications of any LAC, far more than WASP.

Also, this list is missing Colgate (11.8%). Colgate gets the most applicants of any LAC for some reason

One reason is that Colgate has over 3,000 students--which is a large number for an LAC.

Colgate does an amazing job with the marketing materials. Some of the best DC received. But DC couldn't get over the location -- it's pretty remote and the winters are brutal.

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Neo wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand the Colby thing. I know three kids there now who didn’t get into schools with higher acceptance rates (Middlebury, BC and Brown). But maybe the key is that the kids I know are all full pay?

Colby is need-blind for both international and domestic students. That's one of the reasons that it's so hard to get into.

And there is no fee to apply. I am not sure, whether Colby is need blind.

No application fee and no supplement. Colby gets one of the highest number of applications of any LAC, far more than WASP.

Also, this list is missing Colgate (11.8%). Colgate gets the most applicants of any LAC for some reason

One reason is that Colgate has over 3,000 students--which is a large number for an LAC.

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Neo wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand the Colby thing. I know three kids there now who didn’t get into schools with higher acceptance rates (Middlebury, BC and Brown). But maybe the key is that the kids I know are all full pay?

Colby is need-blind for both international and domestic students. That's one of the reasons that it's so hard to get into.

And there is no fee to apply. I am not sure, whether Colby is need blind.

No application fee and no supplement. Colby gets one of the highest number of applications of any LAC, far more than WASP.

Also, this list is missing Colgate (11.8%). Colgate gets the most applicants of any LAC for some reason

They're free for international students and they have optional supplements. Easy push for driving numbers up.

Anonymous wrote:How many of the top 16 LACs have two rounds of ED ? Creates an artificially low acceptance rate.

It's not about how many rounds of ED there are, it's about the percent of the class admitted ED. For example, Harvey Mudd has ED1 and ED2 but only admits 40% of their class via both routes. Williams just filled up 50% of their class with ED (only 1 option).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand the Colby thing. I know three kids there now who didn’t get into schools with higher acceptance rates (Middlebury, BC and Brown). But maybe the key is that the kids I know are all full pay?

Colby is need-blind for both international and domestic students. That's one of the reasons that it's so hard to get into.

And there is no fee to apply. I am not sure, whether Colby is need blind.

No application fee and no supplement. Colby gets one of the highest number of applications of any LAC, far more than WASP.

Also, this list is missing Colgate (11.8%). Colgate gets the most applicants of any LAC for some reason

No one forces someone to ED2. The fact is, if you don’t get into Harvard, you might be very happy with an ED2 to Vanderbilt. Sure, you could apply RD to other schools, but there’s no guarantee. That doesn’t make Vanderbilt or other schools with ED2 bad, it just an inducement to get kids to think seriously about their options and odds in the next round. A lot of people are happy to have that second chance at early, guaranteed admission, even though ED2 provides a much lower advantage compared to ED1.

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Anonymous wrote:How many of the top 16 LACs have two rounds of ED ? Creates an artificially low acceptance rate.

You do realize that Johns Hopkins, Boston University, NYU, Tufts, Vanderbilt and WashU also have ED2? Not sure your theory holds any water.

You are wrong.

Offering two rounds of ED has a very significant effect on admit rate; it artificially lowers them to make schools appear to be more selective.

Strongly disagree. It impacts the yield rate. The school still admits who they want to admit, they simply admit less because some of the students are "guaranteed" to attend.

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Neo wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand the Colby thing. I know three kids there now who didn’t get into schools with higher acceptance rates (Middlebury, BC and Brown). But maybe the key is that the kids I know are all full pay?

Colby is need-blind for both international and domestic students. That's one of the reasons that it's so hard to get into.

And there is no fee to apply. I am not sure, whether Colby is need blind.

It is need blind. Google it

Sorry^^ meant to say the opposite. It us need aware

Neo wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t understand the Colby thing. I know three kids there now who didn’t get into schools with higher acceptance rates (Middlebury, BC and Brown). But maybe the key is that the kids I know are all full pay?

Colby is need-blind for both international and domestic students. That's one of the reasons that it's so hard to get into.

And there is no fee to apply. I am not sure, whether Colby is need blind.

It is need blind. Google it

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How many of the top 16 LACs have two rounds of ED ? Creates an artificially low acceptance rate.

You do realize that Johns Hopkins, Boston University, NYU, Tufts, Vanderbilt and WashU also have ED2? Not sure your theory holds any water.

You are wrong.

Offering two rounds of ED has a very significant effect on admit rate; it artificially lowers them to make schools appear to be more selective.