Nelly Furtado is Portuguese I think

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Anonymous wrote:It's tough to say. They are Latino, but that's an ethniticity not a race I think. I'm not sure myself.

They are? Says who?

Latino is a term used for people from Latin-America. Europeans don’t use that term. Spanish people consider themselves Spaniards. Portuguese are Lusitano.

Most Portuguese consider themselves white. Some can be darker skinned, more like a Middle Eastern olive tone, given the long Arabic presence in the area centuries ago.

- signed, a Portuguese

Yes. Portuguese regard themselves as European. And Europeans regard Portuguese as European. There is zero discussion about whether they are People of Color.

In the American context, if you are from Brazil, you are regarded as Latino. But not Portugal. In fact, according to the College Board, if you have a grandparent from Brazil - even if an immigrant from Italy or Japan - you are now classified as Latino. But not a grandparent from Lisbon.

Does any of it makes sense? No.

My family is Portuguese (parents and grandparents immigrated here) and we consider ourselves white. Definitely would not check a box for Hispanic or Latino.

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Anonymous wrote:Most Brazilians I've met are pretty.... white.

I've literally never met a white Brazilian, and I've met thousands of them. Almost all of them are mixed race.
Do you find that most of the people you meet in general are white? Could be a you thing.

Hi, nice to meet you. 100% white and 100% Brazilian here. You have A LOT to learn about my country if you've "literally never met a white Brazilian." I can guarantee you that most of these "thousands" of Brazilians you've met and are considering non-white would actually laugh and be pretty offended to hear you don't think they are white.

I'm not saying there are no white Brazilians, just that I've met many Brazilians (including when I lived there for a year) and none were white.

And yes, I am know that many, if not most, non-white Brazilians would be offended at being called non-white, as it is an extremely racist and shade-ist country. For example, the friend I lived with there, who has a black father, insisted that he is white because his mother is white and he has green eyes. The definitions of white and non-white in Brazil are basically the opposite as here.

Do you think Giselle Bundchen is mixed race? Adriana Lima?

Anonymous wrote:Yes. And so are most Brazilians there are also some whites

Idiot. The majority of Portugese from Portugal are Europeans, ethnically speaking they are white. Like Swedes.

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Anonymous wrote:Most Brazilians I've met are pretty.... white.

I've literally never met a white Brazilian, and I've met thousands of them. Almost all of them are mixed race.
Do you find that most of the people you meet in general are white? Could be a you thing.

Hi, nice to meet you. 100% white and 100% Brazilian here. You have A LOT to learn about my country if you've "literally never met a white Brazilian." I can guarantee you that most of these "thousands" of Brazilians you've met and are considering non-white would actually laugh and be pretty offended to hear you don't think they are white.

I'm not saying there are no white Brazilians, just that I've met many Brazilians (including when I lived there for a year) and none were white.

And yes, I am know that many, if not most, non-white Brazilians would be offended at being called non-white, as it is an extremely racist and shade-ist country. For example, the friend I lived with there, who has a black father, insisted that he is white because his mother is white and he has green eyes. The definitions of white and non-white in Brazil are basically the opposite as here.

There are millions of Brazilians who are 100% German or Italian in ancestry. They aren’t the majority, but they do exist.

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Anonymous wrote:Most Brazilians I've met are pretty.... white.

I've literally never met a white Brazilian, and I've met thousands of them. Almost all of them are mixed race.
Do you find that most of the people you meet in general are white? Could be a you thing.

Hi, nice to meet you. 100% white and 100% Brazilian here. You have A LOT to learn about my country if you've "literally never met a white Brazilian." I can guarantee you that most of these "thousands" of Brazilians you've met and are considering non-white would actually laugh and be pretty offended to hear you don't think they are white.

I'm not saying there are no white Brazilians, just that I've met many Brazilians (including when I lived there for a year) and none were white.

And yes, I am know that many, if not most, non-white Brazilians would be offended at being called non-white, as it is an extremely racist and shade-ist country. For example, the friend I lived with there, who has a black father, insisted that he is white because his mother is white and he has green eyes. The definitions of white and non-white in Brazil are basically the opposite as here.

You are confused, and I am so sorry for you.

Anonymous wrote:They speak Portuguese, not Spanish. And I knew a few students in college who were pretty dark skinned. Are they POC ?

It’s not the language that makes someone a POC. POC speak all kinds of languages.

POC have lived in Portugal from the Middle Ages. So some Portuguese are POC. However, most are white people whether or not they are swarthy.

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Anonymous wrote:Most Brazilians I've met are pretty.... white.

I've literally never met a white Brazilian, and I've met thousands of them. Almost all of them are mixed race.
Do you find that most of the people you meet in general are white? Could be a you thing.

Hi, nice to meet you. 100% white and 100% Brazilian here. You have A LOT to learn about my country if you've "literally never met a white Brazilian." I can guarantee you that most of these "thousands" of Brazilians you've met and are considering non-white would actually laugh and be pretty offended to hear you don't think they are white.

I'm not saying there are no white Brazilians, just that I've met many Brazilians (including when I lived there for a year) and none were white.

And yes, I am know that many, if not most, non-white Brazilians would be offended at being called non-white, as it is an extremely racist and shade-ist country. For example, the friend I lived with there, who has a black father, insisted that he is white because his mother is white and he has green eyes. The definitions of white and non-white in Brazil are basically the opposite as here.

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Anonymous wrote:Most Brazilians I've met are pretty.... white.

I've literally never met a white Brazilian, and I've met thousands of them. Almost all of them are mixed race.
Do you find that most of the people you meet in general are white? Could be a you thing.

Hi, nice to meet you. 100% white and 100% Brazilian here. You have A LOT to learn about my country if you've "literally never met a white Brazilian." I can guarantee you that most of these "thousands" of Brazilians you've met and are considering non-white would actually laugh and be pretty offended to hear you don't think they are white.

Anonymous wrote:Most Brazilians I've met are pretty.... white.

But not Portuguese.

Anonymous wrote:Most Brazilians I've met are pretty.... white.

I've literally never met a white Brazilian, and I've met thousands of them. Almost all of them are mixed race.
Do you find that most of the people you meet in general are white? Could be a you thing.

^ I think this is especially wrong when a Spaniard gets the same potential employment preference as a people who were forcibly colonized by them.

Hispanic shouldn't be a box to check, IMO. It should say Latino. Especially when it comes to the Federal Government:

"Are You Hispanic or Latino? (A person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race.)"

I know people who are 100% Spaniards (parents born in Spain) and are very pale and by all accounts are not minorities. Over there, they are considered Europeans like everyone else. But here, they will check off the box for "Hispanic" when it is a designation and consider it a potential boost to employment classification.

Yet someone who lives just across the border in France, and speaks French, does not get to check the box.

Most Brazilians I've met are pretty.... white.