Oh, another school we looked at that might actually be an interesting option for the right student - Illinois State. I was so sad when we had to drop that one from my daughter’s list.

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Anonymous wrote:Merit is generally what people are using to make oos publics more reasonable.

There are some that are more reasonably priced, but none most of you would consider.

For example, my daughter is already accepted to Northern Michigan (NMU) and still needs to apply to Slippery Rock in PA. A couple others we considered were UNC-Greensboro, Bridgewater State (MA) and Stockton (NJ)

Jesus these are all terrible schools. Especially Stockton. I’m from that area and it’s a joke school.

+1

Apply to VCU, GMU, JMU instead.

This! in-state or OOS. All have great records for student placement in careers after -- especially GMU. Stockton makes zero sense

Only one of those schools has the 2 programs my child was looking for. She doesn’t have the stats for that school, though.

I already said we are still waiting on 2 in state publics, and one of those is a top 3 from her list of 9 schools.

Her list is based on her specific wants and needs. Of course I wish GMU, JMU or VCU were right for her - they are not. That said, I was putting out there that there are cheaper oos options out there if you are willing to look a little outside the box. We also investigated UNM, U of NV Reno, a couple Cal States, U of Central WA, Western OR, SEMO, a random CO public (Mesa) and a random UT public (Tech) for a short while. She came within hours of hitting send to SIUe (IL). There are lots more schools than just the tops and/or flagships.

There are more choices than

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Anonymous wrote:NMU Parent, congrats for thinking outside the box. I'm a big promoter of Michigan Tech. If a kid wants engineering and doesn't get into, say, instate VT or UMD or some others.

However, what I worry about, for you, is how to get there (to NMU .. or any school in the UP)
Fly into Traverse City, rent a car ... and drive a long time. And stay. She's not coming home. Once you get her there, she's not coming home hardly at all. Driving from the DMV, you get to the Detroit area and you are only halfway there.

This. I want to support MI. My family is there. I see them 1x/year in the summer. No relationship issues. Just expensive and difficult to get the four of us there. The flights on the small planes from DTW are often cancelled- beware. Then you have to rent a car from DTW if they have one at that late notice and drive the other half of the way. That drive in winter is not for a college kid from the DMV.

This is 100% a concern for us, and probably will be the thing that nixes the school in the end. We’re waiting on all her responses to come through.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit is generally what people are using to make oos publics more reasonable.

There are some that are more reasonably priced, but none most of you would consider.

For example, my daughter is already accepted to Northern Michigan (NMU) and still needs to apply to Slippery Rock in PA. A couple others we considered were UNC-Greensboro, Bridgewater State (MA) and Stockton (NJ)

Jesus these are all terrible schools. Especially Stockton. I’m from that area and it’s a joke school.

+1

Apply to VCU, GMU, JMU instead.

This! in-state or OOS. All have great records for student placement in careers after -- especially GMU. Stockton makes zero sense

Anonymous wrote:NMU Parent, congrats for thinking outside the box. I'm a big promoter of Michigan Tech. If a kid wants engineering and doesn't get into, say, instate VT or UMD or some others.

However, what I worry about, for you, is how to get there (to NMU .. or any school in the UP)
Fly into Traverse City, rent a car ... and drive a long time. And stay. She's not coming home. Once you get her there, she's not coming home hardly at all. Driving from the DMV, you get to the Detroit area and you are only halfway there.

This. I want to support MI. My family is there. I see them 1x/year in the summer. No relationship issues. Just expensive and difficult to get the four of us there. The flights on the small planes from DTW are often cancelled- beware. Then you have to rent a car from DTW if they have one at that late notice and drive the other half of the way. That drive in winter is not for a college kid from the DMV.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit is generally what people are using to make oos publics more reasonable.

There are some that are more reasonably priced, but none most of you would consider.

For example, my daughter is already accepted to Northern Michigan (NMU) and still needs to apply to Slippery Rock in PA. A couple others we considered were UNC-Greensboro, Bridgewater State (MA) and Stockton (NJ)

Love Northern Michigan - go Yoopers!

NMU has a friendly, supportive atmosphere. We were thinking about having DD go there. (a giant party school like Michigan State would eat her alive).

CEO/Founder of Starbucks went there because he needed a scholarship. Read about it online somewhere - his life journey was very interesting.

College is a time to maximize what we put into our education with the help of engaged professors. Good results can be achieved anywhere the faculty are committed to teaching. The Internet is a great leveler.

You have been sold a bill of goods - so many people believe this, but haven't the capabilties or lack of naivete.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit is generally what people are using to make oos publics more reasonable.

There are some that are more reasonably priced, but none most of you would consider.

For example, my daughter is already accepted to Northern Michigan (NMU) and still needs to apply to Slippery Rock in PA. A couple others we considered were UNC-Greensboro, Bridgewater State (MA) and Stockton (NJ)

Jesus these are all terrible schools. Especially Stockton. I’m from that area and it’s a joke school.

Fwiw, it did not make our final list. But it does now have lovely dorms on the ac boardwalk.

Not everyone has kids with Ivy stats. My child just hopes to get a 4 year degree. That’s all. So, yes, these schools are nowhere near the top. They were the options for her that had the programs she was looking for.

She is waiting on 2 in state schools, and has an acceptance at a small VA private. We were casting a wide net, though.

I did preface that there are schools that are cheaper but very few of you would deem them worthy.

Congrats to your kid and kudos to you for replying without rancor to such a mean response. I have a little familiarity with NMU too--think it's a great community there. Just have to be really, really ready for the cold/snow.

x1000000 Such a DC response - but such a classy (truly) response. Bravo! You, are ahead, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit is generally what people are using to make oos publics more reasonable.

There are some that are more reasonably priced, but none most of you would consider.

For example, my daughter is already accepted to Northern Michigan (NMU) and still needs to apply to Slippery Rock in PA. A couple others we considered were UNC-Greensboro, Bridgewater State (MA) and Stockton (NJ)

Love Northern Michigan - go Yoopers!

NMU has a friendly, supportive atmosphere. We were thinking about having DD go there. (a giant party school like Michigan State would eat her alive).

CEO/Founder of Starbucks went there because he needed a scholarship. Read about it online somewhere - his life journey was very interesting.

College is a time to maximize what we put into our education with the help of engaged professors. Good results can be achieved anywhere the faculty are committed to teaching. The Internet is a great leveler.

Iowa State. 90% admit rate. Solid engineering program

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit is generally what people are using to make oos publics more reasonable.

There are some that are more reasonably priced, but none most of you would consider.

For example, my daughter is already accepted to Northern Michigan (NMU) and still needs to apply to Slippery Rock in PA. A couple others we considered were UNC-Greensboro, Bridgewater State (MA) and Stockton (NJ)

Jesus these are all terrible schools. Especially Stockton. I’m from that area and it’s a joke school.

+1

Apply to VCU, GMU, JMU instead.

NMU Parent, congrats for thinking outside the box. I'm a big promoter of Michigan Tech. If a kid wants engineering and doesn't get into, say, instate VT or UMD or some others.

However, what I worry about, for you, is how to get there (to NMU .. or any school in the UP)
Fly into Traverse City, rent a car ... and drive a long time. And stay. She's not coming home. Once you get her there, she's not coming home hardly at all. Driving from the DMV, you get to the Detroit area and you are only halfway there.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merit is generally what people are using to make oos publics more reasonable.

There are some that are more reasonably priced, but none most of you would consider.

For example, my daughter is already accepted to Northern Michigan (NMU) and still needs to apply to Slippery Rock in PA. A couple others we considered were UNC-Greensboro, Bridgewater State (MA) and Stockton (NJ)

Jesus these are all terrible schools. Especially Stockton. I’m from that area and it’s a joke school.

Fwiw, it did not make our final list. But it does now have lovely dorms on the ac boardwalk.

Not everyone has kids with Ivy stats. My child just hopes to get a 4 year degree. That’s all. So, yes, these schools are nowhere near the top. They were the options for her that had the programs she was looking for.

She is waiting on 2 in state schools, and has an acceptance at a small VA private. We were casting a wide net, though.

I did preface that there are schools that are cheaper but very few of you would deem them worthy.

Congrats to your kid and kudos to you for replying without rancor to such a mean response. I have a little familiarity with NMU too--think it's a great community there. Just have to be really, really ready for the cold/snow.