Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 00:42     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is hardly groundbreaking news, but I suspect we're going to continue to see ED application numbers skyrocket and ED percentages plummet, at least at the most selective schools.

This may or may not be a harbinger, but this year's Williams ED round was a bloodbath. Certainly some unhooked kids got admitted, but it seems like a whole lot of very high stats gets were rejected outright (where previously a deferral might have been expected).


Where did you get these statistics? 5 kids from my daughter’s class of 190 were accepted ED to Williams on Friday (one was an athlete, the others unhooked).



5 ED acceptances to Williams from one school with just 190 students?

If you don't mind, what school is this?
Anonymous
Post 12/12/2023 00:19     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
Anonymous wrote:This is hardly groundbreaking news, but I suspect we're going to continue to see ED application numbers skyrocket and ED percentages plummet, at least at the most selective schools.

This may or may not be a harbinger, but this year's Williams ED round was a bloodbath. Certainly some unhooked kids got admitted, but it seems like a whole lot of very high stats gets were rejected outright (where previously a deferral might have been expected).


Where did you get these statistics? 5 kids from my daughter’s class of 190 were accepted ED to Williams on Friday (one was an athlete, the others unhooked).
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2023 23:50     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
WJ? It’s half decent school half lower tier and most are sports commits. There is an FSU on there and they have not even released decisions yet.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2023 22:39     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
Anonymous wrote:ED is great for colleges. It is all the rich kids who do not require financial aid or merit. And obviously, it is guaranteed the student will commit.

EA is great for students. Early answers with no commitment. Students can wait to compare financial statements before reaching a decision.


ED is *also* great for students who are ready to commit and get an answer early. Done. You don't have to be a "rich kid" to ED - especially to state schools or schools which offer merit. And you can always turn down ED if the school doesn't meet your financial needs. It's a complete myth to say ED is only for "rich kids."
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2023 22:36     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
Anonymous wrote:ED looking good at our W school.


W school?
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2023 21:53     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
Anonymous wrote:ED looking good at our W school.


+1 for WJ
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2023 21:35     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
Anonymous wrote:This is hardly groundbreaking news, but I suspect we're going to continue to see ED application numbers skyrocket and ED percentages plummet, at least at the most selective schools.

This may or may not be a harbinger, but this year's Williams ED round was a bloodbath. Certainly some unhooked kids got admitted, but it seems like a whole lot of very high stats gets were rejected outright (where previously a deferral might have been expected).


Weirdly Amherst wasn’t a bloodbath…
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2023 21:31     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, for Ivy/Ivy-Equivalent applications, the last few years have been awful for unhooked kids. Some recovery during RD, but the ED round has been awful. Dramatically different from even 5 years ago -- when our older DC graduated and waltzed into a non-HYP Ivy with solid, but less than exceptional, performance at a Big 3.


There are weathly, hooked applicants who aren't dependent on financial aid offers.

No surprise here.

Regular smart kids fare well in public flagships EA/ED.


Does not being FA dependent affect the likelihood of an early acceptance? I thought most top schools were need blind. Am I missing something?


Those who apply ED aren't too concerned about paying the cost of attendance. If it's full freight, so be it.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2023 21:18     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
I think the ED/EA marketing gimmicks from colleges are unfair to students. They give you a false sense that your application will be fairly considered. When I reality it is for high stat and hooked kids and rest deferred so they can see who comes in during the RD round.

Lesson learned. And a bummer.

Anonymous
Post 12/11/2023 20:22     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
ED worked last year for unhooked DC. Didn't bother with Ivies. Chose another T20 that was a good match for major and vibe. Very strong student. Same with older DC.

Not sure how it would go this year. Grade inflation and TO makes everything very chaotic.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2023 18:42     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
ED looking good at our W school.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2023 18:28     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
^^^. . . ED acceptance percentages plummet. . . .
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2023 18:27     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
This is hardly groundbreaking news, but I suspect we're going to continue to see ED application numbers skyrocket and ED percentages plummet, at least at the most selective schools.

This may or may not be a harbinger, but this year's Williams ED round was a bloodbath. Certainly some unhooked kids got admitted, but it seems like a whole lot of very high stats gets were rejected outright (where previously a deferral might have been expected).
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2023 16:51     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This seemed to be true anecdotally to the scea school my '22 got rejected from. The kids that got in seemed to be legacy/connected from privates or wealthy W schools. And the kid who was SMOB.

But, my kid got into several T15 RD, and when they were considering the various schools, we noticed that almost all of the early admits to those schools were unhooked.


T15 RDs sounds great. Although I am hoping against hope that ED works out. So, this can be OVER!


PP here. I'm so with you. '22 has a sib in this cycle, so we're in the same boat again. But hopefully better results early -- lessons learned from '22!
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2023 16:14     Subject: EA/ED generally a bust last few years?
Anonymous wrote:This seemed to be true anecdotally to the scea school my '22 got rejected from. The kids that got in seemed to be legacy/connected from privates or wealthy W schools. And the kid who was SMOB.

But, my kid got into several T15 RD, and when they were considering the various schools, we noticed that almost all of the early admits to those schools were unhooked.


T15 RDs sounds great. Although I am hoping against hope that ED works out. So, this can be OVER!