Anonymous wrote:Suck it, Yale! Somebody on the internet thinks you're second tier.

They dropped the "Y" from HYP?!?!?!?

Anonymous wrote:These tiers are made up by college consulting groups and the likes of US News to drum up their businesses. Don't let their business profits dictate your decisions.

+1

People are so ignorant, and it makes me wonder if they went to college, at all. How can someone not know anything about the U.S. system, and rely on thses inaccurate rankings? I can't imagine trying to make decisions for my kid based on these postings, that are completely nonsensical.

If there are any parent reading this thread who have kids applying to college, I would like to think they are smarter than these posts.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM obsession with prestige is so exhausting. Everything must be ranked and hierarchical.

Welcome to the U.S.A.

I may be wrong, but I had assumed it was newcomers to the U.S. driving this.

Immigrant parents are driving this

I guess US News ranking is published by immigrants.

Suck it, Yale! Somebody on the internet thinks you're second tier.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM obsession with prestige is so exhausting. Everything must be ranked and hierarchical.

Welcome to the U.S.A.

I may be wrong, but I had assumed it was newcomers to the U.S. driving this.

Immigrant parents are driving this

It’s more the rich white folks than anyone else, see who the major “donors” are to top universities and then see where their kids enroll.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM obsession with prestige is so exhausting. Everything must be ranked and hierarchical.

Welcome to the U.S.A.

I may be wrong, but I had assumed it was newcomers to the U.S. driving this.

Immigrant parents are driving this

Def not here….

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM obsession with prestige is so exhausting. Everything must be ranked and hierarchical.

Welcome to the U.S.A.

I may be wrong, but I had assumed it was newcomers to the U.S. driving this.

Immigrant parents are driving this

These tiers are made up by college consulting groups and the likes of US News to drum up their businesses. Don't let their business profits dictate your decisions.

This is hysterical:

If you ask someone immersed in the college frenzy where they will be going to college, they will try to explain it in some vague terms in order to not self-dox.

But here is the guide for deciphering what these mean:

Harvard - Harvard
HYP - Yale or Princeton
#1 on USNews - Princeton
Ivy - Cornell/Brown/Dartmouth/UPenn/ Columbia
Wharton - UPenn Wharton (they have to mention that they are in Wharton)
Stanford - the Farm
"Harvard of the South" - Duke or Vanderbilt
T4 CS School - CMU or Berkeley
T5 CS School - UIUC, GaTech, UWash
#1 Public School - Berkeley or UCLA
MIT - MIT
"MIT of the West" - CalTech
T10 School - Northwestern, UChicago, Johns Hopkins
T20 School - WashU, Rice, Vanderbilt or Notre Dame
T10 Engineering School - Purdue
T10 Undergrad Business School - IU Kelley
WASP / Top LAC - Williams Amherst
Swarthmore Pomona
"Hidden Ivy" = Literally any LAC
"Public Ivy" - UVA UNC UMich or UT
T20 - Any of the T20s not already mentioned

And for LACs:

Amherst- a small harvard
Swarthmore- a small princeton
Williams- a small yale
Colby, bowdoin- like Dartmouth but without frats!
Carleton, grinell, oberlin, Kenyon- small Brown

Anonymous wrote:Tier 1 - HPSM (tops academically at everything, no special recruitment tactics needed)

Tier 2 - Caltech, UPenn, Duke, Yale, Columbia (great academically at vast majority of things, highly desirable but still employ some special recruitment tactics to compete with Tier 1)

Tier 3 - Brown, Dartmouth, UChicago, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Rice, Berkeley, UCLA, Georgetown, UMich, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Harvey Mudd, Olin College of Engineering (great academically at many things, slightly less desirable than previous tiers and slightly worse undergrad outcomes)

Tier 4 - UVA, NYU, UNC, Georgia Tech, USC, CMU, WUSTL, Emory, Carleton, Wellesley, Wesleyan, Middlebury, Claremont McKenna, Barnard, Davidson, Grinnell…

Way to get UVA in there.

Def does not belong there with high hitters - NYU, USC, CMU, WUSTL, Emory, Carleton, Wellesley, Wesleyan, Middlebury, Claremont McKenna, Barnard, Davidson, Grinnell…

With UVA and UNC in tier 4, how many tiers would the OP say there are?

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM obsession with prestige is so exhausting. Everything must be ranked and hierarchical.

Welcome to the U.S.A.

I may be wrong, but I had assumed it was newcomers to the U.S. driving this.

USN&WR

Drives the college ranking narrative.

For bumpkins and newbies, yes.

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Anonymous wrote:Much simpler way to do this. And you should use this to guide your app strategy:

“There are three sets of rankings on US news and world report that are helpful for figuring out a shotgun or application strategy

1. Ivy, ivy plus schools; ranked one through Vanderbilt.

2. Ivy minus schools and a few other top 25. Vanderbilt through NYU.

3. NYU and down.

These tiers have different levels of selectivity, different strategies with respect to applications, and just different levels of scrutiny.”

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If you have the scores / grades/ ECs, what should the strategy be?

How many should you apply to in each tier if you want to shotgun?

Anonymous wrote:Much simpler way to do this. And you should use this to guide your app strategy:

“There are three sets of rankings on US news and world report that are helpful for figuring out a shotgun or application strategy

1. Ivy, ivy plus schools; ranked one through Vanderbilt.

2. Ivy minus schools and a few other top 25. Vanderbilt through NYU.

3. NYU and down.

These tiers have different levels of selectivity, different strategies with respect to applications, and just different levels of scrutiny.”

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM obsession with prestige is so exhausting. Everything must be ranked and hierarchical.

Agreed. All that time and effort spent subranking the rankings could have been spent figuring out which of these would be the best place for their kid.