Anonymous
Post 12/15/2023 14:04     Subject: NYC now charging for entering the most congested streets
This will mean fewer people with mobility issue will be able to live there.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 11:08     Subject: Re:NYC now charging for entering the most congested streets
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here, and the NJ governor is being absolutely ridiculous about this. New York is allowed to levy a fee for entering the city, of course it is, and New Jersey doesn't get a say in the matter. If someone doesn't want to pay it, there are many modes of public transportation to enter the city. People can also move into New York if it's so damn important for them to go there every day, or get a remote job/a job in New Jersey.

Two years from now hardly anyone will remember that it was ever different. People adapt quickly.


I live in NYC but am from london and believe me we wont forget the congestion tax. It's a HUGE freaking cost and hassle if you live here. Just the administration of paying it is annoying. But also where london has a steep discount if you live in the zone, NYC wont even give those of us who live in it any kind of break. So we have the same problems as new jerseyans who dont even pay our tax.
It's so poorly conceived of and so so so dumb.


Might I suggest that if you live in the zone, you don't need a car?


When people start off a post with "May I ask" or "Might I suggest", they intend to start a lecture FYI
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 11:02     Subject: NYC now charging for entering the most congested streets
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dc is going to look at this and think it’s a great idea. Implementing soon.

DC can’t do this because Congress would never approve it. Stop fearmongering.


Plus they are desperate for people to go downtown now - literally begging. So they won’t charge people for the privilege!
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 11:00     Subject: Re:NYC now charging for entering the most congested streets
Welcome to the toll lanes on 66. It's the same congested based pricing.
So what?
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 11:00     Subject: NYC now charging for entering the most congested streets
Anonymous wrote:Dc is going to look at this and think it’s a great idea. Implementing soon.

DC can’t do this because Congress would never approve it. Stop fearmongering.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 10:59     Subject: Re:NYC now charging for entering the most congested streets
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here, and the NJ governor is being absolutely ridiculous about this. New York is allowed to levy a fee for entering the city, of course it is, and New Jersey doesn't get a say in the matter. If someone doesn't want to pay it, there are many modes of public transportation to enter the city. People can also move into New York if it's so damn important for them to go there every day, or get a remote job/a job in New Jersey.

Two years from now hardly anyone will remember that it was ever different. People adapt quickly.


I live in NYC but am from london and believe me we wont forget the congestion tax. It's a HUGE freaking cost and hassle if you live here. Just the administration of paying it is annoying. But also where london has a steep discount if you live in the zone, NYC wont even give those of us who live in it any kind of break. So we have the same problems as new jerseyans who dont even pay our tax.
It's so poorly conceived of and so so so dumb.

+1 My friend who will have the most problems with this lives in NYC and works in NJ.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 09:40     Subject: Re:NYC now charging for entering the most congested streets
They are saying NYC needs to save or raise more than a billion a year

https://www.cssny.org/news/entry/food-insecurity-is-a-persistent-and-pervasive-problem-in-new-york-city-new-
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 14:42     Subject: NYC now charging for entering the most congested streets
Dc is going to look at this and think it’s a great idea. Implementing soon.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 14:34     Subject: NYC now charging for entering the most congested streets
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So does this add $15 to cab/uber fares within the zone?


Uber/Lyft, medallion taxis, limos, black cars, etc. have already paid congestion surcharges since 2019:

$2.75 for surcharge in a vehicle that is not a medallion taxicab or a pool vehicle
$2.50 surcharge when the transportation is provided by a medallion taxicab vehicle
$0.75 for each pool trip (ie., Super Shuttle or other airport shuttles, UberPool rides, etc.)

https://www.tax.ny.gov/bus/cs/csidx.htm

It appears that this new congestion fee (which only applies below 60th Street in Manhattan) would add a new supplemental geography based congestion fee and it only applies during certain hours (M-F 5am-9am, Sat & Sun 9am-9pm)

$1.25 surcharge for medallion taxis. So now the total fees are $3.75 ($2.50 congestion surcharge + $1.25 additional congestion surcharge for below 60th Street)
$2.50 surcharge for other vehicles, including Uber/Lyft. So now the total fees are $5.25 ($2.75 congestion surcharge + $2.50 additional congestion surcharge for below 60th Street)

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/nyc-congestion-pricing-commuters-pay-tolls-taxis-discounts


Whoa - good point. So Uber fees should be static with this in play.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 14:21     Subject: Re:NYC now charging for entering the most congested streets
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:New Yorker here, and the NJ governor is being absolutely ridiculous about this. New York is allowed to levy a fee for entering the city, of course it is, and New Jersey doesn't get a say in the matter. If someone doesn't want to pay it, there are many modes of public transportation to enter the city. People can also move into New York if it's so damn important for them to go there every day, or get a remote job/a job in New Jersey.

Two years from now hardly anyone will remember that it was ever different. People adapt quickly.


I live in NYC but am from london and believe me we wont forget the congestion tax. It's a HUGE freaking cost and hassle if you live here. Just the administration of paying it is annoying. But also where london has a steep discount if you live in the zone, NYC wont even give those of us who live in it any kind of break. So we have the same problems as new jerseyans who dont even pay our tax.
It's so poorly conceived of and so so so dumb.


Former London resident here. In my case, I lived within the congestion zone, so it was not a financial burden and I appreciated being about to drive around and find parking with relative ease in central London. I’m also a former ny’er and I’m wondering how the city can possibly manage rolling out the license plate identification infrastructure required to police this. In order to reduce traffic in ny, I would have suggested this - restrict commercial deliveries to certain hours, enforce double parking /standing fines, enforce a cap on numbers of taxis/ubers, and most importantly, get rid of parking spaces. A sure-fire way to reduce private cars is to reduce the number of places they can park.