Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 17:07     Subject: Relays at Meets

You can not get an official time if you are not the lead off swimmer. From the USA Swimming rulebook:

Requirements for Official Time
A Performance Requirements
(1)
An official time can be achieved only in USA Swimming sanctioned or USA Swim- ming approved competition, or in an observed swim in accordance with all appli- cable rules. It may be achieved in:
(a) Any heat.
(b) A swim-off.
(c) A lead-off leg in a relay swum by four eligible relay members; the lead-off swimmer’s time shall not be nullified by a subsequent disqualification of his/ her team members.
(d) A split time recorded from the official start to the completion of an initial dis- tance with a legal finish within a longer event, provided the swimmer com- pletes the event or the lead-off portion of the relay in compliance with applicable rules.
(e) A time trial or a record attempt.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 14:16     Subject: Relays at Meets

This is 100% up to the club's coach. Every club will do this their own way.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 11:02     Subject: Relays at Meets

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When does the anchor leg get an official time?


Never-- it's just the lead off swimmer.


this isn't really accurate. Basically in advance of the relay swimming a coach can request an 'official split' time for any leg of the relay. The swimmer has to do an observed legal start and finish for the stroke for which they want the split (this is usually, but not always, the same as the relay legal start and finish). They put watches on the split, the swimmer has to hit the pad. The table then creates a new event of 'splits times' and you have the official split. You can also get an official split for longer strokes. e.g. if a swimmer is swimming a 200 back, and wants the time for the 100- they can request in advance an official split. Coming in on the 100, they have to touch, not do a flip turn, to get the split.

if you aren't looking for an official split, but just want to know the split time, just look at the results and you will see the time.


You can get an official split, but from what I’ve been told by coaches, that still won’t count as an official time for anything unless you are the lead swimmer.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 09:29     Subject: Relays at Meets

Anonymous wrote:Kids like them but it means the facility stays packed until the last event instead of kids filtering out.

Lineups are usually:
Who is here?
Who can swim stroke X?
You 4 A team, You 4 B team
etc
Names presubmitted may or may not mean anything. Depends on the coach.


Most meets I have been too the relays are in the beginning or middle, I have not seen them at the end.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 08:49     Subject: Relays at Meets

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When does the anchor leg get an official time?


Never-- it's just the lead off swimmer.


this isn't really accurate. Basically in advance of the relay swimming a coach can request an 'official split' time for any leg of the relay. The swimmer has to do an observed legal start and finish for the stroke for which they want the split (this is usually, but not always, the same as the relay legal start and finish). They put watches on the split, the swimmer has to hit the pad. The table then creates a new event of 'splits times' and you have the official split. You can also get an official split for longer strokes. e.g. if a swimmer is swimming a 200 back, and wants the time for the 100- they can request in advance an official split. Coming in on the 100, they have to touch, not do a flip turn, to get the split.

if you aren't looking for an official split, but just want to know the split time, just look at the results and you will see the time.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2023 08:42     Subject: Relays at Meets

Kids like them but it means the facility stays packed until the last event instead of kids filtering out.

Lineups are usually:
Who is here?
Who can swim stroke X?
You 4 A team, You 4 B team
etc
Names presubmitted may or may not mean anything. Depends on the coach.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 20:52     Subject: Relays at Meets

It’s great if you’re a medley relay swimmer and you’re one and done or maybe two but my kid is on every relay as a fast freestyler- I personally think they should spread the wealth around. It’s too many relays for my kid at champs meets- and they’d be happy to let another kid with times close to theirs swim if they want to otherwise it’s the same kids over and over
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 20:44     Subject: Re:Relays at Meets

Anonymous wrote:Relays at these meets are such a waste. Tires your kid out for their individual events.


Agree. My kid was on 3 and right before their event. It wouldn’t be so bad if they were at the end but I guess no one would stick around then.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 17:40     Subject: Relays at Meets

Anonymous wrote:When does the anchor leg get an official time?


Never-- it's just the lead off swimmer.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 17:24     Subject: Relays at Meets

When does the anchor leg get an official time?
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 14:49     Subject: Relays at Meets

Interestingly, if your kid goes first (and sometimes last) in a relay, that counts for the stroke/event as if your kid swam just that stroke. For example, if your kid swims first in a 200 yard freestyle relay, your kid gets the time for the first 50 yards. This is great if your kid thrives on relays.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2023 11:55     Subject: Re:Relays at Meets

Anonymous wrote:Relays at these meets are such a waste. Tires your kid out for their individual events.


My kid always swims better when she does relays. Gets so pumped from the relay even with back to back events.
Anonymous
Post 12/03/2023 12:43     Subject: Re:Relays at Meets

Anonymous wrote:Relays at these meets are such a waste. Tires your kid out for their individual events.


It's fun for them and a good experience. When all the top kids are swimming on the relays it doesn't advantage or disadvantage anyone really. In other words, it's a wash with some good team and character building thrown in.