Anonymous
11/30/2023 11:08
Subject: Note Taking
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.
Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.
Who said anything about copying from slides (although that is ONE method to learn). Note taking can take several forms as is about helping the individual remember key information and make connections. Having simulations/labs/readings is pointless if you can’t then distill the information down into the important concepts and be able to explain it to others.
Anonymous
11/30/2023 11:04
Subject: Note Taking
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am in middle and I teach them as best as I can in my lessons!!! Believe me I get it! Instead of canned advisory lessons that no one is invested in we really should be teaching these skills. Drives me nuts!
+1 omg..my kids tell me that all the kids think the feel good lessons during advisory are a joke. Time would be better spent on teaching them how to take notes or even about finances.
Please communicate this to central office. Hammer this point home. Everyone there loves Advisory and think of it as a feather in their cap. Maybe they'll listen to parents because they don't listen to teachers about the uselessness of advisory.
+1. It really should be a 1 semester 6th grade class.
Anonymous
11/30/2023 09:58
Subject: Note Taking
My three kids all take notes in every college class. I asked them and one of them said one professor gives them copies of the PowerPoints but they still have to write their own notes. I’m not sure what colleges the PP sends their kids to where professors in every class are giving out their own notes for every student. Maybe kids with accommodations get the notes but that’s it.
Anonymous
11/29/2023 22:32
Subject: Note Taking
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.
Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.
But it’s not how undergrad or grad students are taught. Teens need to know how to take notes
Anonymous
11/29/2023 22:22
Subject: Note Taking
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.
Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.
They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.
That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.
Agreed, Professors give out copies of their notes and also record the lectures.
My DS is a junior at a liberal arts college. None of his classes are recorded and only 1 professor in a freshman class gave out copies of his notes.
Anonymous
11/29/2023 21:19
Subject: Note Taking
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.
Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.
They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.
That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.
Agreed, Professors give out copies of their notes and also record the lectures.
That doesn’t mean the student is engaged in learning. There have been studies done that demonstrate that writing notes increases retention and the ability to conceptualize problems asked of them. Granted it’s even more when done physically by hand. So if a student listens in class and then goes home and annotates the professor’s lecture or notes and does well on an assessment then there is more evidence of the benefit of understanding what it means to “take notes”
Anonymous
11/29/2023 17:53
Subject: Note Taking
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.
Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.
They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.
That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.
Agreed, Professors give out copies of their notes and also record the lectures.
Anonymous
11/29/2023 17:40
Subject: Note Taking
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.
Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.
They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.
i don't think this is true at all. in the olden days you went to class and took notes. if you missed it you needed to get notes from someone else. if you miss a class now, you can go online and view all the slides. some even have the lectures to watch. way easier to take notes if you can stop and start the lecture.
Anonymous
11/29/2023 17:15
Subject: Note Taking
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am in middle and I teach them as best as I can in my lessons!!! Believe me I get it! Instead of canned advisory lessons that no one is invested in we really should be teaching these skills. Drives me nuts!
+1 omg..my kids tell me that all the kids think the feel good lessons during advisory are a joke. Time would be better spent on teaching them how to take notes or even about finances.
Please communicate this to central office. Hammer this point home. Everyone there loves Advisory and think of it as a feather in their cap. Maybe they'll listen to parents because they don't listen to teachers about the uselessness of advisory.
Anonymous
11/28/2023 22:49
Subject: Note Taking
Study skills and note/taking would be great topics to cover in advisory. Unfortunately, it is an utter waste of time.
Anonymous
11/28/2023 21:36
Subject: Note Taking
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.
Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.
They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.
That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.
Interesting. My DC says they take some notes in college, and HS. Straight A student in both.
Anonymous
11/28/2023 21:34
Subject: Note Taking
Anonymous wrote:I am in middle and I teach them as best as I can in my lessons!!! Believe me I get it! Instead of canned advisory lessons that no one is invested in we really should be teaching these skills. Drives me nuts!
+1 omg..my kids tell me that all the kids think the feel good lessons during advisory are a joke. Time would be better spent on teaching them how to take notes or even about finances.
Anonymous
11/28/2023 21:28
Subject: Note Taking
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.
Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.
They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.
That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.
And college isn’t entertainment. We pay for the knowledge of a professor. It’s important to understand that and be able to learn how to incorporate information being disseminated in all different ways as an adult.
Anonymous
11/28/2023 21:06
Subject: Note Taking
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Teaching has fallen off
Has nothing to do with teaching. It has to do with public education.
We expect algebra/calculus but a finance class is optional at MCPS.
Most legit private schools have study skills, public speaking, and executive function courses that are mandatory in middle school.
Finance is algebra and calculus.
Anonymous
11/28/2023 21:05
Subject: Note Taking
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is mind-blowing that they don't teach kids how to take notes or study in middle school.
Note taking was important when the teacher (and the text book) was the only source of the information. And then came the internet with all the information taught in MS/HS easily available in multiple formats. What really is the point of notes anymore? Good classroom teachers don't just "lecture" to students anymore. They have a variety of activities, simulations, labs, readings, etc. to engage students in the material. Copying from slides is not engaging to students at all, and a terrible way to learn material.
They better learn how to take notes from a lecture because that was college is for most kids. Nobody taught me how to take notes but you figure out what works and what doesn't as you go along.
That's 20 years expired advice. No one takes needs to take notes from lectures anymore. Notes are for collecting research for essays. Good classes don't waste class time on lectures.