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Anonymous wrote:https://ijmo.asia/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Grade-2.pdf

Pick any question in section C (after #20, those are not multiple choice), paste a question on the top of a 8x11 paper, and have her write through how she solve the problem.

Repeat until you get a good sample.

These are way too hard. I don't think even my 5th grader currently in level four AAP would solve half. Curious now, might try having her try these.

I haven't looked at these, but I used NRICH out of Britain to find a work sample for my now 6th grader (who yes, did get in). You can sort the problems by level of difficulty and topic. Then it's the same as PP suggested: make sure that the process is well documented.

Math puzzles like these are better than worksheets because they require a logical application of steps. Our AART has always said a math sample is the #1 thing you want, and then I believe after that she prioritizes either language arts or science. However my 4th grader got in with a social studies-ish sample and a language arts sample from home. Not sure what the school submitted.

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Anonymous wrote:https://ijmo.asia/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Grade-2.pdf

These are way too hard. I don't think even my 5th grader currently in level four AAP would solve half. Curious now, might try having her try these.

I am the PP who provided this link. You'd be surprised. Pick the easiest ones, even in the multiple choice section, copy the prompt on top of a clean sheet of paper but leave out the multiple choice answers, and see if she can arrive at the correct number. The goal is not to solve every questions, but find the question that generates a clear thought process of solution.

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I don't know about the difficulty level, but they aren't things the kid would come up with on his or her own.

Who said work sample has to be thought up by the kids? You give then an assignment and they finish it, same as school.

Things like, if you had a rocket, where would you go in solar system and why, that is a work sample. Kid didnt come up with that prompt but his/her answer shows how they think.

Give them a math puzzle and they finish it, show their process, thats a work sample.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://ijmo.asia/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Grade-2.pdf

Pick any question in section C (after #20, those are not multiple choice), paste a question on the top of a 8x11 paper, and have her write through how she solve the problem.

Repeat until you get a good sample.

These are way too hard. I don't think even my 5th grader currently in level four AAP would solve half. Curious now, might try having her try these.

I don't know about the difficulty level, but they aren't things the kid would come up with on his or her own.

Work samples are so ridiculous. What a stupid system.

Anonymous wrote:https://ijmo.asia/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Grade-2.pdf

Pick any question in section C (after #20, those are not multiple choice), paste a question on the top of a 8x11 paper, and have her write through how she solve the problem.

Repeat until you get a good sample.

These are way too hard. I don't think even my 5th grader currently in level four AAP would solve half. Curious now, might try having her try these.

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Anonymous wrote:I need to start a Work Samples consulting business.

If that was a viable enterprise, former AAP teachers would make a killing.

Our school's AART does this basically for free. She doesn't exactly tell you what to do (like the consulting business would), but she does at least review the parent portion of the packet and provide suggestions for how it could be improved to show a better picture of the child. All AARTs should be required to offer feedback and let parents know they do it. Our AART has said - and as far as I can tell she means it - that once you parent refer or the child is in pool, her job is to make the child look as good as possible (within the bounds of reality).

Anonymous wrote:I need to start a Work Samples consulting business.

If that was a viable enterprise, former AAP teachers would make a killing.

Anonymous wrote:I need to start a Work Samples consulting business.

Please, will you?

I need to start a Work Samples consulting business.

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Anonymous wrote:They do not average the tests. The 144 definitely puts her in the pool. You can submit a parent statement that outlines things you observe at home, especially ones that are student-driven. You can ask the teacher if they have samples to send in. With a 144, I would not worry at all.

At least during the local building norm pilot they expressly said they used some sort of formula to combine the NNAT and CoGAT and used the top 10% of a school based on that formula as the in-pool kids for local norms. It may have changed in the subsequent 3 years since then.

They averaged the tests last year.

Anonymous wrote:They do not average the tests. The 144 definitely puts her in the pool. You can submit a parent statement that outlines things you observe at home, especially ones that are student-driven. You can ask the teacher if they have samples to send in. With a 144, I would not worry at all.

At least during the local building norm pilot they expressly said they used some sort of formula to combine the NNAT and CoGAT and used the top 10% of a school based on that formula as the in-pool kids for local norms. It may have changed in the subsequent 3 years since then.

Do not assume a score of 144 is a shoo-in and blow off the parent referral pieces. I do think that the parent referral questions and work samples from home are less important than the teacher reviews (GBRS or HOPES or whatever it is called now), but you have no control over what the teacher is going to say, so do your part well.

I say this as someone whose kid had super high scores but was tanked by their teacher’s GBRS. He got in on appeal, after I spent a lot of time refuting what the teacher had said.

They do not average the tests. The 144 definitely puts her in the pool. You can submit a parent statement that outlines things you observe at home, especially ones that are student-driven. You can ask the teacher if they have samples to send in. With a 144, I would not worry at all.