Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s essentially the same as men who go overseas for wives and girlfriends. Using your relative wealth compared to poorer countries in order to gain access to female bodies that you can’t have at home.

+1

Why can't people adopt?

How many have you adopted?

I have an adopted child. You?

There's a reason surrogacy is illegal in most Western countries. It really is exploitative and there have been some absolutely dreadful situations where the surrogate mother has been left with a disabled child that the "buyers" didn't want anymore, and which she doesn't have the means to support. I think we will increasingly see surrogacy be outlawed in more countries.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s essentially the same as men who go overseas for wives and girlfriends. Using your relative wealth compared to poorer countries in order to gain access to female bodies that you can’t have at home.

+1

Why can't people adopt?

How many have you adopted?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you want to travel to some poor country and pay an impoverished woman to get pregnant and carry your child? That seems ethical to you?

Bet you pay impoverished women to produce your adorbz housewares and clothing all the time. Hypocrite.

You think producing clothing is the same effect on a body as carrying a child? Are you a man or something? No way a woman would compare these two.

Speak for yourself. I’m a woman and I’d much rather get well paid for being pregnant again than work for less than minimum wage in a factory.

How do we determine what is well paid to carry a pregnancy and birth a child?

OP is trying to cut corners and pay as little as possible by going to a poor country. How much is a bio child worth?

Anonymous wrote:INDIA

I am Indian and I feel if the mothers are paid $20-25K (instead of several hundred dollars) and their expenses and medical care is fully taken care of during pregnancy and postpartum - it will change their and their family's future.

Make it worth their while.

It’s illegal there.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you want to travel to some poor country and pay an impoverished woman to get pregnant and carry your child? That seems ethical to you?

Bet you pay impoverished women to produce your adorbz housewares and clothing all the time. Hypocrite.

You think producing clothing is the same effect on a body as carrying a child? Are you a man or something? No way a woman would compare these two.

Speak for yourself. I’m a woman and I’d much rather get well paid for being pregnant again than work for less than minimum wage in a factory.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s essentially the same as men who go overseas for wives and girlfriends. Using your relative wealth compared to poorer countries in order to gain access to female bodies that you can’t have at home.

+1

Why can't people adopt?

Because they don’t want to. They want to raise their own biological children. You are free to adopt. Other people are free to use surrogates.

Bigger question: why are there so many nasty trolls hovering around this infertility board?

Anonymous wrote:It’s essentially the same as men who go overseas for wives and girlfriends. Using your relative wealth compared to poorer countries in order to gain access to female bodies that you can’t have at home.

+1

Why can't people adopt?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you want to travel to some poor country and pay an impoverished woman to get pregnant and carry your child? That seems ethical to you?

Bet you pay impoverished women to produce your adorbz housewares and clothing all the time. Hypocrite.

You think producing clothing is the same effect on a body as carrying a child? Are you a man or something? No way a woman would compare these two.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s essentially the same as men who go overseas for wives and girlfriends. Using your relative wealth compared to poorer countries in order to gain access to female bodies that you can’t have at home.

This, I'm sorry, but there's no justification.

For a similar (or lower?) cost, there are many, many living children in need of a loving home.

Then why don’t you go ahead and adopt them?

The OP doesn’t want to adopt. She wants to have her and her husband’s biological child. The technology exists. The women who are more than happy to be surrogates exist. So, why don’t you crawl back to the Middle Ages and rant about ethics while burning a witch?

INDIA

I am Indian and I feel if the mothers are paid $20-25K (instead of several hundred dollars) and their expenses and medical care is fully taken care of during pregnancy and postpartum - it will change their and their family's future.

Make it worth their while.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you want to travel to some poor country and pay an impoverished woman to get pregnant and carry your child? That seems ethical to you?

Bet you pay impoverished women to produce your adorbz housewares and clothing all the time. Hypocrite.

Not pp but this is an actual horrifying take. A living breathing baby is not a piece of clothing you disgusting ghoul.

Whoosh! You missed PP’s point entirely.

NP and I don't think they did.

Anonymous wrote:It’s essentially the same as men who go overseas for wives and girlfriends. Using your relative wealth compared to poorer countries in order to gain access to female bodies that you can’t have at home.

This, I'm sorry, but there's no justification.

For a similar (or lower?) cost, there are many, many living children in need of a loving home.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you want to travel to some poor country and pay an impoverished woman to get pregnant and carry your child? That seems ethical to you?

Bet you pay impoverished women to produce your adorbz housewares and clothing all the time. Hypocrite.

Not pp but this is an actual horrifying take. A living breathing baby is not a piece of clothing you disgusting ghoul.

Whoosh! You missed PP’s point entirely.

Anonymous wrote:So you want to travel to some poor country and pay an impoverished woman to get pregnant and carry your child? That seems ethical to you?

Listen, if I were that impoverished woman in a poor country, I would do it in a minute. NP.