Anonymous
11/25/2023 08:35
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a classic overpayment scam. You weren't actually ever overpaid by anyone, were you?
And how do you know it actually was this guy? .
I looked up the number they called me from and this guy’s LinkedIn profile came up first in search results. The guy’s name matched the phone ID and the name he introduced himself with.
I don’t know if this employer overpaid me or not. I only worked for them for a week and then got paid. I thought it was a little high, but since I don’t have a single paystub from them I have no idea.
Ugh. It sounds like a cross between the typical overpayment scam and these new employment scams that are coming out. The hallmark of the employment scam that comes to mind is they hire you for a week, maybe two, then pay you way more than makes sense. Then in some way -- here it's this I'm a lawyer and you were overpaid and I'll take you to court! stuff -- they get you to transfer the money to someone else, and they scare you or bully you into paying more than they originally paid you. That's how the scam works. Given your short period of employment and the fact that you thought payment " was a little high" ... it's the scam. I assume the people you did work for were sketchy. Do not engage with these people. Block.
Look for more info on this kind of scam here: https://fightcybercrime.org/scams/imposter/job-scams/?gclid=CjwKCAiAsIGrBhAAEiwAEzMlC5n9BWCKnrqXOjePudF9V4raxs4e775L4VDdbulAZlD9-FE2BlN84hoCTCEQAvD_BwE
OP here. I think the company is legit.
I only worked there one week because I got a much better offer that I couldn’t turn down.
I do, however, wonder if this is a scam involving some employees there.
I asked them to send me a copy of my pay stubs and haven’t gotten them.
Anonymous
11/25/2023 08:34
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
It’s a scam. Ignore.
Anonymous
11/25/2023 08:31
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
Anonymous wrote:You need to figure out if you were overpaid, OP. You should have done that the minute they sent you the first letter. If you were, then pay them back.
If you were overpaid and they sue you, they might be able to collect attorney’s fees from you, if you agreed to that in your employment or contractor contract.
I suspect you were overpaid and you at least sort of know it, but you think it’s their fault for making the mistake so you don’t think you should have to pay them back (which is legally incorrect) and therefore you haven’t taken their prior attempts to contact you about this seriously. I would recommend you think that plan.
I think they nay have overpaid, but maybe by $500, not by $2,000K.
I asked for my pay stubs. They won’t send them to me. This guy sent some blurry excel spreadsheet that is unreadable. So I can’t really calculate how much they overpaid.
Anonymous
11/24/2023 21:03
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a classic overpayment scam. You weren't actually ever overpaid by anyone, were you?
And how do you know it actually was this guy? I looked up that lawyer and it doesn't appear to me that his practice lends itself to calling people the day after Thanksgiving over $2,000, lol. It would cost 2k just to have him make the phone call
. And the comment about not trusting the mail is the reddest flag ever.
His law firm profile is here: https://www.nelsonmullins.com/professionals/joe-daniels#main You might email to confirm it wasn't actually him (and let him know people are spoofing him).
I feel like scammers can claim to be a Big Law lawyer knowing that people will google a name while they are on the phone. And when people Google, and they see it is a Big Law lawyer, they think it is legit and just fold and fall into the scam. But the person they were talking to was never the person on the phone.
At any rate, that highly-compensated law firm partner isn't going to be heading in to court over $2000, lol.
I actually do NOT trust the mail to send checks and because our mail has been thrown out before and the USPS has staffing problems. That said, court mail should arrive. No one wants to steal that.
This sounds like a scam. Just tell them you look forward to seeing them in court.
The fake police officer fund based in Rockville used to call and threaten us to send money. When he got angry and hung up on us, we figured right that it was a scam. It stinks because they have done this for years and people really think they are donating money to help the families of fallen police officers.
Anonymous
11/24/2023 21:01
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
Didn’t they tell you it was a severance/bonus?
Anonymous
11/24/2023 20:56
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
Anonymous wrote:How can you not know if you were overpaid? Take your offer letter and divide by 52. If the gross pay you received is greater than that you were overpaid. Now will they spend the resources to sue you over it? Probably not, because it will be at least $1K in legal fees.
OP doesn't know about the pay because the whole job offer and job itself was part of the scam. The scammers are the ones that hired her, and they were purposely unclear about the pay. Op says the job was for like a week. It's not like OP was working for a Fortune 500 company for the last 3 years or something. Lots of employment opportunity scams out there.
OP -- you need to concern yourself with identity theft now as well, assuming they have your d/o/b, ss# etc.
Anonymous
11/24/2023 20:53
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
Anonymous wrote:People do work on the day after Thanksgiving, so I wouldn’t assume it’s a scam just because he called today.
Big Law partners, with offices in Manhattan, who normally handle M&A and IPOs, don't make calls on the day after Thanksgiving on behalf of clients with a $2,000 claim against someone, lol. That's the point.
OP is getting scammed. The job they had in the first place was likely part of it. These job-opportunity scams are growing very common.
Anonymous
11/24/2023 20:49
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a classic overpayment scam. You weren't actually ever overpaid by anyone, were you?
And how do you know it actually was this guy? .
I looked up the number they called me from and this guy’s LinkedIn profile came up first in search results. The guy’s name matched the phone ID and the name he introduced himself with.
I don’t know if this employer overpaid me or not. I only worked for them for a week and then got paid. I thought it was a little high, but since I don’t have a single paystub from them I have no idea.
Ugh. It sounds like a cross between the typical overpayment scam and these new employment scams that are coming out. The hallmark of the employment scam that comes to mind is they hire you for a week, maybe two, then pay you way more than makes sense. Then in some way -- here it's this I'm a lawyer and you were overpaid and I'll take you to court! stuff -- they get you to transfer the money to someone else, and they scare you or bully you into paying more than they originally paid you. That's how the scam works. Given your short period of employment and the fact that you thought payment " was a little high" ... it's the scam. I assume the people you did work for were sketchy. Do not engage with these people. Block.
Look for more info on this kind of scam here: https://fightcybercrime.org/scams/imposter/job-scams/?gclid=CjwKCAiAsIGrBhAAEiwAEzMlC5n9BWCKnrqXOjePudF9V4raxs4e775L4VDdbulAZlD9-FE2BlN84hoCTCEQAvD_BwE
Anonymous
11/24/2023 20:45
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
You need to figure out if you were overpaid, OP. You should have done that the minute they sent you the first letter. If you were, then pay them back.
If you were overpaid and they sue you, they might be able to collect attorney’s fees from you, if you agreed to that in your employment or contractor contract.
I suspect you were overpaid and you at least sort of know it, but you think it’s their fault for making the mistake so you don’t think you should have to pay them back (which is legally incorrect) and therefore you haven’t taken their prior attempts to contact you about this seriously. I would recommend you think that plan.
If you were overpaid and they sue you, they might be able to collect attorney’s fees from you, if you agreed to that in your employment or contractor contract.
I suspect you were overpaid and you at least sort of know it, but you think it’s their fault for making the mistake so you don’t think you should have to pay them back (which is legally incorrect) and therefore you haven’t taken their prior attempts to contact you about this seriously. I would recommend you think that plan.
Anonymous
11/24/2023 20:38
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
People do work on the day after Thanksgiving, so I wouldn’t assume it’s a scam just because he called today.
Anonymous
11/24/2023 18:09
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
Ignore.
Anonymous
11/24/2023 18:05
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
How can you not know if you were overpaid? Take your offer letter and divide by 52. If the gross pay you received is greater than that you were overpaid. Now will they spend the resources to sue you over it? Probably not, because it will be at least $1K in legal fees.
Anonymous
11/24/2023 17:58
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
Debt validation, sorry https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/debt-validation-letter
Anonymous
11/24/2023 17:57
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
Well, it apparently is a collections agency https://www.bilateral.com/
You could request a debt verification letter.
Anonymous
11/24/2023 17:42
Subject: Is this guy scamming me?
Looks like a real company, been in business for 50+ years. Why not call the employer?