Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:According to this, 30% of Williams students were recruited athletes in 2019: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/opinion/college-sports-bribery-admissions.html

So 2,000 students x .30 = 600 over 4 years, 150/year. Which would leave 99 spots for those 634 ED applicants, so 15%, same as the overall admit rate.

It’s 770 total, according to this government site that tracks athlete numbers for Title IX purposes: https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/institution/details

And just to add context, UVA and Michigan, which are 10-20x bigger than Williams have only 800-900 varsity athletes. Wesleyan, which is 1/3 bigger, has 745. Williams is really really skewed toward athletes.

Anonymous wrote:According to this, 30% of Williams students were recruited athletes in 2019: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/opinion/college-sports-bribery-admissions.html

So 2,000 students x .30 = 600 over 4 years, 150/year. Which would leave 99 spots for those 634 ED applicants, so 15%, same as the overall admit rate.

It’s 770 total, according to this government site that tracks athlete numbers for Title IX purposes: https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/institution/details

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sorry, but if your kid is unhooked, that was a huge mistake. Have an ED2 lined up…

Haha. She'll be perfectly fine. She considered gaming the system by applying ED to Dartmouth, which provides a minor ED advantage. But, at the end of the day, Williams stood out. If she got into a place like Dartmouth, as fabulous as it is, she'd always wonder if she could have gotten into Williams. If she doesn't get into Williams ED, which seems probable, she get into another great school* in RD, perhaps with merit aid.

*Her list of "great" schools is significantly broader than traditional T20 universities and T10 LACs.

This is key. Because a lot of unhooked kids doing SCEA/Williams-Amherst ED will indeed end up at these schools (unlike your DD, did not think this was a good outcome.)

Anonymous wrote:I am sorry, but if your kid is unhooked, that was a huge mistake. Have an ED2 lined up…

Haha. She'll be perfectly fine. She considered gaming the system by applying ED to Dartmouth, which provides a minor ED advantage. But, at the end of the day, Williams stood out. If she got into a place like Dartmouth, as fabulous as it is, she'd always wonder if she could have gotten into Williams. If she doesn't get into Williams ED, which seems probable, she get into another great school* in RD, perhaps with merit aid.

*Her list of "great" schools is significantly broader than traditional T20 universities and T10 LACs.

Anonymous wrote:PP. Ah, I figured the other hooked applicants would apply in generally equal numbers RD and ED, but maybe not.

Good for your daughter for shooting her shot! All she can do. Best of luck to her.

Questbridge are all ED. As are the vast proportion of legacy (would you want to give a legacy preference when it is not an applicant’s first choice?).

If your DD had a strong second choice and has already submitted that application, you could call that school and see if they could convert it to an ED1. Then you withdraw the ED to Williams. It might not be too late.

I know she won’t want to do that, but I would be remiss not to mention the possibility….

Anonymous wrote:They don’t release numbers typically until admissions decisions are released.

+1

PP. Ah, I figured the other hooked applicants would apply in generally equal numbers RD and ED, but maybe not.

Good for your daughter for shooting her shot! All she can do. Best of luck to her.