Anonymous wrote:TJ parent here. 4.4 is a great gap. Easily in top 10-15%
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are todays TJ students (I’m assuming you’re referring to the classes 2025, 2026, 2027) far more impressive stats? The PSAT numbers are dropping. 2026 has their psat scores too and they are definitely not impressive. Please do share what these “impressive stats” you’re referring to actually are
Don’t bother. This poster has been making these weird “better than ever” posts for over a year without ever quantifying it. However, data continues to show the opposite, as expected.
Just the opposite. Some poster keeps making these worse-than-ever posts without qualifying them. Their point was a previous poster in this thread had pointed out that stats from a few years ago are low by today's standards which was on point.
I mean the SOL scores/pass advanced rates dropped by a pretty good bit.
The number of students enrolled in Algebra II in 9th dropped dramatically.
And if those PSAT score info is legit (I don't know where PP got that info), then the PSAT scores dropped dramatically.
If you mean qualified like mentioning COVID as a reason for poor scores, then why did FCPS drop only 4 points in SAT scores from last year and TJ drop 89 points in the PSAT?
Having worse scores than previous students is just data that reflects a different approach to selecting students. These new students are obviously very smart too, but they are not as accelerated and are not performing the same in these standardized tests as previous students and it's OK to acknowledge that.
I don't know where you get these made up stats from but TJ's scores have gone up up and up since they changed admission process. PSAT are higher than ever.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are todays TJ students (I’m assuming you’re referring to the classes 2025, 2026, 2027) far more impressive stats? The PSAT numbers are dropping. 2026 has their psat scores too and they are definitely not impressive. Please do share what these “impressive stats” you’re referring to actually are
Don’t bother. This poster has been making these weird “better than ever” posts for over a year without ever quantifying it. However, data continues to show the opposite, as expected.
Just the opposite. Some poster keeps making these worse-than-ever posts without qualifying them. Their point was a previous poster in this thread had pointed out that stats from a few years ago are low by today's standards which was on point.
I mean the SOL scores/pass advanced rates dropped by a pretty good bit.
The number of students enrolled in Algebra II in 9th dropped dramatically.
And if those PSAT score info is legit (I don't know where PP got that info), then the PSAT scores dropped dramatically.
If you mean qualified like mentioning COVID as a reason for poor scores, then why did FCPS drop only 4 points in SAT scores from last year and TJ drop 89 points in the PSAT?
Having worse scores than previous students is just data that reflects a different approach to selecting students. These new students are obviously very smart too, but they are not as accelerated and are not performing the same in these standardized tests as previous students and it's OK to acknowledge that.
I don't know where you get these made up stats from but TJ's scores have gone up up and up since they changed admission process. PSAT are higher than ever.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are todays TJ students (I’m assuming you’re referring to the classes 2025, 2026, 2027) far more impressive stats? The PSAT numbers are dropping. 2026 has their psat scores too and they are definitely not impressive. Please do share what these “impressive stats” you’re referring to actually are
Don’t bother. This poster has been making these weird “better than ever” posts for over a year without ever quantifying it. However, data continues to show the opposite, as expected.
Just the opposite. Some poster keeps making these worse-than-ever posts without qualifying them. Their point was a previous poster in this thread had pointed out that stats from a few years ago are low by today's standards which was on point.
I mean the SOL scores/pass advanced rates dropped by a pretty good bit.
The number of students enrolled in Algebra II in 9th dropped dramatically.
And if those PSAT score info is legit (I don't know where PP got that info), then the PSAT scores dropped dramatically.
If you mean qualified like mentioning COVID as a reason for poor scores, then why did FCPS drop only 4 points in SAT scores from last year and TJ drop 89 points in the PSAT?
Having worse scores than previous students is just data that reflects a different approach to selecting students. These new students are obviously very smart too, but they are not as accelerated and are not performing the same in these standardized tests as previous students and it's OK to acknowledge that.
I don't know where you get these made up stats from but TJ's scores have gone up up and up since they changed admission process. PSAT are higher than ever.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are todays TJ students (I’m assuming you’re referring to the classes 2025, 2026, 2027) far more impressive stats? The PSAT numbers are dropping. 2026 has their psat scores too and they are definitely not impressive. Please do share what these “impressive stats” you’re referring to actually are
Don’t bother. This poster has been making these weird “better than ever” posts for over a year without ever quantifying it. However, data continues to show the opposite, as expected.
Just the opposite. Some poster keeps making these worse-than-ever posts without qualifying them. Their point was a previous poster in this thread had pointed out that stats from a few years ago are low by today's standards which was on point.
I mean the SOL scores/pass advanced rates dropped by a pretty good bit.
The number of students enrolled in Algebra II in 9th dropped dramatically.
And if those PSAT score info is legit (I don't know where PP got that info), then the PSAT scores dropped dramatically.
If you mean qualified like mentioning COVID as a reason for poor scores, then why did FCPS drop only 4 points in SAT scores from last year and TJ drop 89 points in the PSAT?
Having worse scores than previous students is just data that reflects a different approach to selecting students. These new students are obviously very smart too, but they are not as accelerated and are not performing the same in these standardized tests as previous students and it's OK to acknowledge that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are todays TJ students (I’m assuming you’re referring to the classes 2025, 2026, 2027) far more impressive stats? The PSAT numbers are dropping. 2026 has their psat scores too and they are definitely not impressive. Please do share what these “impressive stats” you’re referring to actually are
Don’t bother. This poster has been making these weird “better than ever” posts for over a year without ever quantifying it. However, data continues to show the opposite, as expected.
Just the opposite. Some poster keeps making these worse-than-ever posts without qualifying them. Their point was a previous poster in this thread had pointed out that stats from a few years ago are low by today's standards which was on point.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What are todays TJ students (I’m assuming you’re referring to the classes 2025, 2026, 2027) far more impressive stats? The PSAT numbers are dropping. 2026 has their psat scores too and they are definitely not impressive. Please do share what these “impressive stats” you’re referring to actually are
Don’t bother. This poster has been making these weird “better than ever” posts for over a year without ever quantifying it. However, data continues to show the opposite, as expected.
Anonymous wrote:What are todays TJ students (I’m assuming you’re referring to the classes 2025, 2026, 2027) far more impressive stats? The PSAT numbers are dropping. 2026 has their psat scores too and they are definitely not impressive. Please do share what these “impressive stats” you’re referring to actually are
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:2 of my friends said their kids who recently graduated from TJ had GPA in the high 4.4 to high 4.5 range (straight As) and about 7 AP/post AP classes through junior year which is about standard for the “most rigorous” course load at TJ. Sure there will be a handful of kids with a few more but that is about the most a kid can take at TJ given the number of AP courses offered and other course requirements and restrictions (esp compared to base FCPS schools). Difference can be if a kid took band/orchestra etc (unweighted courses until this year but for current students their transcripts will be adjusted) and language.
Some students don’t take a language (place out through language credit exam) or just take a year or two (including AP level) and instead take more weighted classes which can increase the GPA vs a kid who takes 3 years of a language (unweighted) starting with level 1
My kid graduated with all As (only As and A+s) from TJ several years ago. He had taken about 9-10 APs/post-APs by end of his junior year and the weighted gpa was around 4.57. He was in the top 10% and probably in the top 1%.
With the new admission process, the bar is much higher now. The kid's scores are through the roof!!
That's exactly why TJ student stats are so much higher now than just a few years ago. The new process selected based on talent not prep and early test access.
huh? TJ student stats (for the classes under new admissions process) are so much LOWER now because of the new admissions process. The mean PSAT for juniors class of 2025 (the first class under new admissions) is around 1350. That is low! esp compared to class of 2024 at 89 points higher. There will definitely be a huge drop in NMSF when cut offs are announced next year[/quote
You're mistaken. As a previous poster pointed out today's TJ students have far more impressive stats than just a few years ago.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:2 of my friends said their kids who recently graduated from TJ had GPA in the high 4.4 to high 4.5 range (straight As) and about 7 AP/post AP classes through junior year which is about standard for the “most rigorous” course load at TJ. Sure there will be a handful of kids with a few more but that is about the most a kid can take at TJ given the number of AP courses offered and other course requirements and restrictions (esp compared to base FCPS schools). Difference can be if a kid took band/orchestra etc (unweighted courses until this year but for current students their transcripts will be adjusted) and language.
Some students don’t take a language (place out through language credit exam) or just take a year or two (including AP level) and instead take more weighted classes which can increase the GPA vs a kid who takes 3 years of a language (unweighted) starting with level 1
My kid graduated with all As (only As and A+s) from TJ several years ago. He had taken about 9-10 APs/post-APs by end of his junior year and the weighted gpa was around 4.57. He was in the top 10% and probably in the top 1%.
With the new admission process, the bar is much higher now. The kid's scores are through the roof!!
That's exactly why TJ student stats are so much higher now than just a few years ago. The new process selected based on talent not prep and early test access.