Anonymous
Post 11/20/2023 20:29     Subject: Brave 09g rant
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Anonymous wrote:The coach previously ran the VYS NCSL travel teams. You only have to look at the success of those teams over the years to know what you should have expected.


He also ran the 2008’s, 10’s and 11’s who are performing at a decent level or better. Give up your grudge with the club.


Not affiliated with Brave but please do tell of any of his high performing teams over the past years at VYS.


The 8’s, 10’s, and 11’s are all strong, and are all made up of core VYS players. The 8’s are 7-2, and the 10’s and 11’s are 5-3-1. Even the second teams for the younger VYS girls are doing well in ECNL-R.

The 10s beat Charlotte a few weeks ago, even though they failed to show up vs Union last weekend.


These are Brave teams. Is the brave coach is also coaching the VYS ecnlr teams? The PP is asking about any historical VYS teams over the past 10 years? I’m more curious how Brave is winning by parking the bus and booting long ball to a striker.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2023 20:13     Subject: Brave 09g rant
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The coach previously ran the VYS NCSL travel teams. You only have to look at the success of those teams over the years to know what you should have expected.


He also ran the 2008’s, 10’s and 11’s who are performing at a decent level or better. Give up your grudge with the club.


Not affiliated with Brave but please do tell of any of his high performing teams over the past years at VYS.


The 8’s, 10’s, and 11’s are all strong, and are all made up of core VYS players. The 8’s are 7-2, and the 10’s and 11’s are 5-3-1. Even the second teams for the younger VYS girls are doing well in ECNL-R.

The 10s beat Charlotte a few weeks ago, even though they failed to show up vs Union last weekend.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2023 20:01     Subject: Brave 09g rant
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Anonymous wrote:With VYS coaches at the helm of BRAVE, they play direct, transition ball which is the opposite of BRYC possession ball and positioning that is taught. No wonder there is confusion when merging players and I can't see how it's going to benefit talented BRYC players whose only job will be to look mediocre and play it directly to the fast forward(s).

Certainly talented BRYC players get recruited by other clubs but why can't those clubs develop their own talent/promote from within? They want to profit from the work of others who have developed these players for them.


The play is rather direct but seems to progress over the years. Not sure how many BRYC girls are on the ‘08 and younger rosters. I believe not a single one on 2011.

I would say talented girls from any club get recruited not just the special BRYC ones. Let’s stop pretending the clubs are the biggest reason for development. It largely falls on the individual and the work they put in on their own.


How do you play direct when OP says they only play with one striker? 5 central midfielders leads me to believe it’s not a confusion issue on possession vs direct but confusion on the formation. There must be some wide, left, right midfielders?


Most teams around here that I’ve seen use 5 Midfielders and a back 4 are just parking the bus…And when they gain possession they are just pinging it long in the general direction of the striker and hoping for a fluke goal. Definitely have seen some BRAVE teams play that way.


This sounds terrible. I can see this if you have a lead to preserve in the final minutes but to play like this all of the time is criminal. Young players will never develop doing this. How is Brave winning with this style of play?
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2023 19:21     Subject: Brave 09g rant
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:With VYS coaches at the helm of BRAVE, they play direct, transition ball which is the opposite of BRYC possession ball and positioning that is taught. No wonder there is confusion when merging players and I can't see how it's going to benefit talented BRYC players whose only job will be to look mediocre and play it directly to the fast forward(s).

Certainly talented BRYC players get recruited by other clubs but why can't those clubs develop their own talent/promote from within? They want to profit from the work of others who have developed these players for them.


The play is rather direct but seems to progress over the years. Not sure how many BRYC girls are on the ‘08 and younger rosters. I believe not a single one on 2011.

I would say talented girls from any club get recruited not just the special BRYC ones. Let’s stop pretending the clubs are the biggest reason for development. It largely falls on the individual and the work they put in on their own.


How do you play direct when OP says they only play with one striker? 5 central midfielders leads me to believe it’s not a confusion issue on possession vs direct but confusion on the formation. There must be some wide, left, right midfielders?


Most teams around here that I’ve seen use 5 Midfielders and a back 4 are just parking the bus…And when they gain possession they are just pinging it long in the general direction of the striker and hoping for a fluke goal. Definitely have seen some BRAVE teams play that way.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2023 13:57     Subject: Brave 09g rant
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:With VYS coaches at the helm of BRAVE, they play direct, transition ball which is the opposite of BRYC possession ball and positioning that is taught. No wonder there is confusion when merging players and I can't see how it's going to benefit talented BRYC players whose only job will be to look mediocre and play it directly to the fast forward(s).

Certainly talented BRYC players get recruited by other clubs but why can't those clubs develop their own talent/promote from within? They want to profit from the work of others who have developed these players for them.


The play is rather direct but seems to progress over the years. Not sure how many BRYC girls are on the ‘08 and younger rosters. I believe not a single one on 2011.

I would say talented girls from any club get recruited not just the special BRYC ones. Let’s stop pretending the clubs are the biggest reason for development. It largely falls on the individual and the work they put in on their own.


How do you play direct when OP says they only play with one striker? 5 central midfielders leads me to believe it’s not a confusion issue on possession vs direct but confusion on the formation. There must be some wide, left, right midfielders?
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2023 12:45     Subject: Brave 09g rant
Anonymous wrote:With VYS coaches at the helm of BRAVE, they play direct, transition ball which is the opposite of BRYC possession ball and positioning that is taught. No wonder there is confusion when merging players and I can't see how it's going to benefit talented BRYC players whose only job will be to look mediocre and play it directly to the fast forward(s).

Certainly talented BRYC players get recruited by other clubs but why can't those clubs develop their own talent/promote from within? They want to profit from the work of others who have developed these players for them.


Where are all of the supposedly developed BRYC players now?
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2023 12:43     Subject: Brave 09g rant
Anonymous wrote:With VYS coaches at the helm of BRAVE, they play direct, transition ball which is the opposite of BRYC possession ball and positioning that is taught. No wonder there is confusion when merging players and I can't see how it's going to benefit talented BRYC players whose only job will be to look mediocre and play it directly to the fast forward(s).

Certainly talented BRYC players get recruited by other clubs but why can't those clubs develop their own talent/promote from within? They want to profit from the work of others who have developed these players for them.


The play is rather direct but seems to progress over the years. Not sure how many BRYC girls are on the ‘08 and younger rosters. I believe not a single one on 2011.

I would say talented girls from any club get recruited not just the special BRYC ones. Let’s stop pretending the clubs are the biggest reason for development. It largely falls on the individual and the work they put in on their own.
Anonymous
Post 11/20/2023 10:18     Subject: Brave 09g rant
With VYS coaches at the helm of BRAVE, they play direct, transition ball which is the opposite of BRYC possession ball and positioning that is taught. No wonder there is confusion when merging players and I can't see how it's going to benefit talented BRYC players whose only job will be to look mediocre and play it directly to the fast forward(s).

Certainly talented BRYC players get recruited by other clubs but why can't those clubs develop their own talent/promote from within? They want to profit from the work of others who have developed these players for them.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2023 23:31     Subject: Brave 09g rant
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Oh yea. The icing is that the coach recently canceled a tournament we were supposed to go to in Dec but he’s going with other age groups. no email. No communication. Just removed it from TeamSnap.


That sounds unprofessional and unfair to the players. Have you reached out to the club's overall Director of Coaching?


09g coach is DOC.


Don’t bother…horrible communication, lack of direction, only cared for certain players (last year the 08s who were trap players who were part of the reason the team had a few wins) Even if you reach out you’ll get or rather your player will get penalized for it by being given the silent treatment and/or benched. It’s a lose lose situation.


This is spot on. We are winning despite of the coaching due to individual excellence. Very simple and direct play. Obvious that a few of the other clubs train a more sophisticated style of play that may serve their players better in the long run. Zero communication. Everyone is scared to say anything because coach will 100% bench your DD if you do unless your DD is one of the few top players or parent is a manager. Then you can do no wrong and the coach will accommodate any and all of your requests.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2023 23:19     Subject: Re:Brave 09g rant
Anonymous wrote:Interesting, I have an 09 DD, who will be looking at new clubs this spring. Sorry to hear these misfortunes regarding this team. Honestly, would now look to have her play with the 08 team.


I wouldn't go to the club on 09s or 08s. There are many clubs in this area. If your DD wants to play in college, which is the point of ECNL, I'd look for a coach/club with a better track record for placing players.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2023 22:52     Subject: Brave 09g rant
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh yea. The icing is that the coach recently canceled a tournament we were supposed to go to in Dec but he’s going with other age groups. no email. No communication. Just removed it from TeamSnap.


That sounds unprofessional and unfair to the players. Have you reached out to the club's overall Director of Coaching?


09g coach is DOC.


Don’t bother…horrible communication, lack of direction, only cared for certain players (last year the 08s who were trap players who were part of the reason the team had a few wins) Even if you reach out you’ll get or rather your player will get penalized for it by being given the silent treatment and/or benched. It’s a lose lose situation.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2023 21:51     Subject: Brave 09g rant
Anonymous wrote:I guess I am not surprised that the former BRYC team is not having a better experience as Fairfax Brave. Girls have left BRYC in large numbers and if you have been around a while- former BRYC players are filling the rosters at other local clubs and doing well. It is sad that BRYC can't retain talent.


Can’t speak of the 09s but top players at the younger ages are being recruited aggressively by clubs with a better collegiate placement track record.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2023 20:44     Subject: Brave 09g rant
Anonymous wrote:I guess I am not surprised that the former BRYC team is not having a better experience as Fairfax Brave. Girls have left BRYC in large numbers and if you have been around a while- former BRYC players are filling the rosters at other local clubs and doing well. It is sad that BRYC can't retain talent.


There aren’t very many BRYC girls on the BRAVE girl’s rosters. And the teams are definitely doing better compared to two years ago. A long way to go and a few teams may not be able to be turned around but 3-4 of the 6 teams are performing relatively pretty well. Not much different and even better in some instances compared to the other NOVA ECNL teams.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2023 20:34     Subject: Brave 09g rant
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh yea. The icing is that the coach recently canceled a tournament we were supposed to go to in Dec but he’s going with other age groups. no email. No communication. Just removed it from TeamSnap.


That sounds unprofessional and unfair to the players. Have you reached out to the club's overall Director of Coaching?


09g coach is DOC.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2023 20:17     Subject: Brave 09g rant
I guess I am not surprised that the former BRYC team is not having a better experience as Fairfax Brave. Girls have left BRYC in large numbers and if you have been around a while- former BRYC players are filling the rosters at other local clubs and doing well. It is sad that BRYC can't retain talent.