Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 22:12     Subject: PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
OP. This isn’t a super academic focused daycare. He gets 45 minutes of outside play in the morning and afternoon. Maybe that’s not enough but I would hesitate to withdraw him when this is his last year before K and he has a lot of friends and really does love his teachers for a different program for 6 months. Trying to think of ways to help him adjust more and self-regulate. To PPs telling me to essentially parent him, I agree! We have constant conversations about how to behave. No tv or sugar during the week for any kids. I would consider us on the extreme side of strict compared to our friends. DH and I both come from military families and we fit some of the stereotypes of being “old school” with parenting.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 21:56     Subject: PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
Anonymous wrote:He's a smart kid. Maybe he'd benefit from a more academic, structured program.


You aren’t a teacher are you? Uh, no he most certainly not benefit from a more structured and academic program. He needs to be playing and exercising. Perhaps his pre-k program is too restrictive.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 21:49     Subject: PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP again. My DH does drop off and pick up. I think the details of my commute and work hours are pretty boring but I leave the house at 7 and return at 4:30.

My sons are 8, 6, and 4. All of them participate in athletics, are over 100th percentile in height, etc. They are hilarious and fun! All are outgoing, opinionated, and loud. Big personalities all around, including DH. But of course we always emphasize listening to adults, being calm inside, and only playing rough when all parties agree.

I will look into karate for DS4. I hesitate to overschedule at his age, though. We don’t get this feedback from coaches, Sunday school teachers, or other adults, so I think it’s just being at school with no outlet in the mornings until playground time mid-morning.


That's a long day for a teacher.

It sounds like you need to double down on the listen to adults, being calm, and playing rough only when all agree because he's not getting the message and hasn't been for a while.

Another benefit of karate is the focus on self discipline which should help him as well.

Good luck.


That’s a very normal day length for a teacher, especially when you add in a commute.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 21:45     Subject: PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
He's a smart kid. Maybe he'd benefit from a more academic, structured program.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 21:42     Subject: PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Clark the Shark is perfect. DS is the biggest kid in his class… he is definitely a Clark the Shark. Thank you for this book recommendation.

I agree that it would be ideal for DS to play outside before school. Unfortunately, he has to go to daycare at 7:30 due to DH’s work schedule. I think this is part of the issue. Outside play doesn’t happen until 10. On the weekends we are usually outside by 8:30 or 9 at the absolute latest.


This is exzctly the issue with redshirting. Since you asked, OP. Your kid is bored.



Huh? He is 4 in PK4. His birthday is in May. He has always been tall. I didn’t redshirt him.

He can read and do some math (mostly from being around older brothers and thinking homework is cool). But I don’t think he is gifted or something.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 21:40     Subject: PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Clark the Shark is perfect. DS is the biggest kid in his class… he is definitely a Clark the Shark. Thank you for this book recommendation.

I agree that it would be ideal for DS to play outside before school. Unfortunately, he has to go to daycare at 7:30 due to DH’s work schedule. I think this is part of the issue. Outside play doesn’t happen until 10. On the weekends we are usually outside by 8:30 or 9 at the absolute latest.


This is exzctly the issue with redshirting. Since you asked, OP. Your kid is bored.



Huh? He is 4 in PK4. His birthday is in May. He has always been tall. I didn’t redshirt him.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 21:36     Subject: PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Clark the Shark is perfect. DS is the biggest kid in his class… he is definitely a Clark the Shark. Thank you for this book recommendation.

I agree that it would be ideal for DS to play outside before school. Unfortunately, he has to go to daycare at 7:30 due to DH’s work schedule. I think this is part of the issue. Outside play doesn’t happen until 10. On the weekends we are usually outside by 8:30 or 9 at the absolute latest.


This is exzctly the issue with redshirting. Since you asked, OP. Your kid is bored.



*exactly
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 21:35     Subject: PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Clark the Shark is perfect. DS is the biggest kid in his class… he is definitely a Clark the Shark. Thank you for this book recommendation.

I agree that it would be ideal for DS to play outside before school. Unfortunately, he has to go to daycare at 7:30 due to DH’s work schedule. I think this is part of the issue. Outside play doesn’t happen until 10. On the weekends we are usually outside by 8:30 or 9 at the absolute latest.


This is exzctly the issue with redshirting. Since you asked, OP. Your kid is bored.

Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 21:34     Subject: PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
Anonymous wrote:OP again. My DH does drop off and pick up. I think the details of my commute and work hours are pretty boring but I leave the house at 7 and return at 4:30.

My sons are 8, 6, and 4. All of them participate in athletics, are over 100th percentile in height, etc. They are hilarious and fun! All are outgoing, opinionated, and loud. Big personalities all around, including DH. But of course we always emphasize listening to adults, being calm inside, and only playing rough when all parties agree.

I will look into karate for DS4. I hesitate to overschedule at his age, though. We don’t get this feedback from coaches, Sunday school teachers, or other adults, so I think it’s just being at school with no outlet in the mornings until playground time mid-morning.


That's a long day for a teacher.

It sounds like you need to double down on the listen to adults, being calm, and playing rough only when all agree because he's not getting the message and hasn't been for a while.

Another benefit of karate is the focus on self discipline which should help him as well.

Good luck.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 21:28     Subject: Re:PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
Anonymous wrote:Teach him to keep his hands to himself. He can't rough house (aka push, run into, wrestle, tackle) others if he isn't touching them. Stop this sort of play at home with dad and leave the dog alone.


I bet OP have never thought of this! OP, have you ever told your sons to keep their hands to themselves? It will fix this completely!

DCUM. LOL
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 21:25     Subject: PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
OP again. My DH does drop off and pick up. I think the details of my commute and work hours are pretty boring but I leave the house at 7 and return at 4:30.

My sons are 8, 6, and 4. All of them participate in athletics, are over 100th percentile in height, etc. They are hilarious and fun! All are outgoing, opinionated, and loud. Big personalities all around, including DH. But of course we always emphasize listening to adults, being calm inside, and only playing rough when all parties agree.

I will look into karate for DS4. I hesitate to overschedule at his age, though. We don’t get this feedback from coaches, Sunday school teachers, or other adults, so I think it’s just being at school with no outlet in the mornings until playground time mid-morning.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 21:24     Subject: PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
Put him in a new school. Your son is fine.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 21:19     Subject: PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
Anonymous wrote:
Teachers typically start their days earlier than any other professional workers. HS starts at 7:30 and teachers have to be there before that.


(*laughs in doctor* )
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 21:14     Subject: Re:PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
Teach him to keep his hands to himself. He can't rough house (aka push, run into, wrestle, tackle) others if he isn't touching them. Stop this sort of play at home with dad and leave the dog alone.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 21:07     Subject: PTC: DS is “too loud” and “too competitive”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You mentioned the apology letters in the past, but do you do anything else? How is he on weekends with other kids? Does he rough house with them ( it's hard to imagine this is a school only trend)? Watch him closely on the playground and step in and correct him when he is being too rough or no letting other kids have turns.

You said you are a teacher so I'm sure you can sympathize with the teachers in this situation. They probably have concerns that other kids will get hurt or don't get to contribute in class.


OP here. I completely sympathize with the teacher! We go to the playground often and his behavior is totally within the realm of normal 4 year old. PPs suggesting my kid doesn’t know how to “treat living beings” are hilarious!!! I was you!! Now I have three boys.


Op, you have 3 boys? What are the ages and where does this child fall in the range? He is copying older siblings? Failing to adjust to a new baby?