Anonymous
Post 11/19/2023 11:35     Subject: Is this typical for Independent Living Agreements?

Sat no, that YOU will not be responsible for any of their fees, that they and they alone are responsible. Or cross that section out, wote "no," and initial it and explain that they are responsible for their own fees, not you
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2023 05:15     Subject: Is this typical for Independent Living Agreements?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, I just got off the phone with my uncle’s estate/elder lawyer. Basically, I (or someone else) has to sign this agreement to pay if my uncle can’t. He says this is standard. If can’t afford to pay his bills there, then of course, I’d need to find him alternative housing (eg, a Medicare facility), which could be tricky.

I wish I understood this before. I also wish he had listened to me about waiting to sell the house until we had figured out his new living arrangement. If I don’t sign this, he doesn’t have someone else to sign for him.


Correct, do not sign! They want you on the hook for anything uncle can't/doesn't pay. This is standard, and most don't notice or read and just sign. Just cross it off and initial or tell them you won't sign

FYI, they all do this, and most people don't realize until their lived one passed away and they are then on the hook for extra $$. Amd, you don't have to sign!


What do you mean you don’t have to sign?
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 06:14     Subject: Is this typical for Independent Living Agreements?

Anonymous wrote:So, I just got off the phone with my uncle’s estate/elder lawyer. Basically, I (or someone else) has to sign this agreement to pay if my uncle can’t. He says this is standard. If can’t afford to pay his bills there, then of course, I’d need to find him alternative housing (eg, a Medicare facility), which could be tricky.

I wish I understood this before. I also wish he had listened to me about waiting to sell the house until we had figured out his new living arrangement. If I don’t sign this, he doesn’t have someone else to sign for him.


Correct, do not sign! They want you on the hook for anything uncle can't/doesn't pay. This is standard, and most don't notice or read and just sign. Just cross it off and initial or tell them you won't sign

FYI, they all do this, and most people don't realize until their lived one passed away and they are then on the hook for extra $$. Amd, you don't have to sign!
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 05:08     Subject: Is this typical for Independent Living Agreements?

I would be calling other options and find out what they require. See if it truly is the local standard... I would hesitate to sign
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 04:56     Subject: Is this typical for Independent Living Agreements?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This document seems to be standard practice. Where did you find a place that didn’t have this kind of document requirement?


My parents place did not require it. I assume they would be evicted if they stopped paying like any other rental place.what if a person does not have a relative to sign? What is you have no assets to cover it?


they would just reject you.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 04:21     Subject: Re:Is this typical for Independent Living Agreements?

Anonymous wrote:Is there a continuous care component to this Over 55 community?


Fighting insomnia when I noticed this — my uncle is 85yo. I’m not sure what the average age is.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 04:17     Subject: Is this typical for Independent Living Agreements?

Anonymous wrote:This document seems to be standard practice. Where did you find a place that didn’t have this kind of document requirement?


My parents place did not require it. I assume they would be evicted if they stopped paying like any other rental place.what if a person does not have a relative to sign? What is you have no assets to cover it?
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 04:05     Subject: Is this typical for Independent Living Agreements?

This document seems to be standard practice. Where did you find a place that didn’t have this kind of document requirement?
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 03:51     Subject: Is this typical for Independent Living Agreements?

Anonymous wrote:So, I just got off the phone with my uncle’s estate/elder lawyer. Basically, I (or someone else) has to sign this agreement to pay if my uncle can’t. He says this is standard. If can’t afford to pay his bills there, then of course, I’d need to find him alternative housing (eg, a Medicare facility), which could be tricky.

I wish I understood this before. I also wish he had listened to me about waiting to sell the house until we had figured out his new living arrangement. If I don’t sign this, he doesn’t have someone else to sign for him.


Medicare does not pay for a facility, medicaid does. I would not sign this at all.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2023 03:50     Subject: Is this typical for Independent Living Agreements?

Do not sign anything like that. The nursing home we put my MIL in tried to make me sign it, I declined and that was it.
Anonymous
Post 11/17/2023 09:48     Subject: Is this typical for Independent Living Agreements?

So, I just got off the phone with my uncle’s estate/elder lawyer. Basically, I (or someone else) has to sign this agreement to pay if my uncle can’t. He says this is standard. If can’t afford to pay his bills there, then of course, I’d need to find him alternative housing (eg, a Medicare facility), which could be tricky.

I wish I understood this before. I also wish he had listened to me about waiting to sell the house until we had figured out his new living arrangement. If I don’t sign this, he doesn’t have someone else to sign for him.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2023 18:10     Subject: Is this typical for Independent Living Agreements?

Anonymous wrote:But talk to an elder attorney for clarification of the language you would need to write in.

Also, strike through any terms that you disagree with.

If they give you a hard time, find another senior housing place. [/quote]

oh, yes, because that is so easy! and not like they talk about themselves and want to distance themselves from a pill if possible.