Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 19:18     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dubai is awful

Disagree. My family loved it!


What did you like most? The slave labor?
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 19:18     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dubai is awful


No, it's not. Gaza, now that is an awful place.

OP will be traveling on an American passport. Her faith will not come into play while in the UAE. If anything, the large majority of hotel staff and restaurant staff and service workers will be Asians or South Asians, with desk facing staff in expensive hotels eastern Europeans. I seriously doubt any will recognize a Jewish surname. I lived in the UAE for years with a last name that similar enough to several Jewish last names and not once did anyone ever blink.

NP here. I’ve written this in other threads (because it keeps coming up) but when I was in Dubai recently, I saw orthodox Jewish men walking around (with the traditional black hat, long black top, and curls). Nobody bothered them.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 19:13     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
Anonymous wrote:Dubai is awful

Disagree. My family loved it!
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 18:57     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12684573/nyc-student-elizabeth-polanco-los-santos-dubai-jail-release.html

This is why I’ll never go to Dubai or anywhere where trumped up charges and jail time are a thing.


Holy shit. I’m transferring through there in January.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 18:51     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
Driving in South Africa would be the scariest part. Pulling off the road for trucks, people running across the road and getting hit, and drunk drivers are all worries there.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 18:32     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
What’s not to love— fake ski resorts, deserts and human rights violations
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 18:21     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
Yes Americans will be hostage targets until the president shows strength
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 18:20     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
Why would you spend 5 nights in Dubai?
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 18:16     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Security-wise, you'll probably be fine.

But ethics-wise, I would never give my money to countries with such human rights and women's rights records.


Yet you live in the US?


PP you replied to. Are you saying that today, the United States of America is on par with the United Arab Emirates regarding human rights abuses?

Why don't you give us facts to prove your case.




Tons of human rights violations in the USA. Read up on migrant and farm workers. Look at all the children in cages at the borders separated from their parents, lack of basic health care for people, lack of maternity leave, lack of abortion rights, etc etc. I really don't think the US can say much about any other country.


NP. Oh please. The U.S. has its problems but nothing compared to the human rights issues in the UAE!
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 18:14     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
Anonymous wrote:the people who are working in dubai signup to work there. they go back to their families in their home countries. they then return voluntarily, to dubai. to make money.

do you think thay they shouldn't be allowed to leave their home countries when they are invited to work in dubai?


and are you outraged at the con ditions in their home countries?
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 18:09     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
Anonymous wrote:We are supposed to be in Dubai for 5 nights in late December before heading to South Africa.

Would you cancel given current situation in Israel/Gaza/Lebanon?

Fwiw Jewish last name (mixed faith/race family)….


LOL that you're worried about safety in Dubai and not South Africa. And I am a HUGE fan of SA.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 18:08     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
the people who are working in dubai signup to work there. they go back to their families in their home countries. they then return voluntarily, to dubai. to make money.

do you think thay they shouldn't be allowed to leave their home countries when they are invited to work in dubai?
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 18:05     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12684573/nyc-student-elizabeth-polanco-los-santos-dubai-jail-release.html

This is why I’ll never go to Dubai or anywhere where trumped up charges and jail time are a thing.
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 17:38     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I do understand your fears but think you’ll be fine. Nothing is ever guaranteed to be safe.

As humans were bad at estimating risks. Like how people fear flying far more than driving.

That most dangerous part of your trip is South Africa, one of the least safe countries in the world. UAE’s murder rate per 100K people is around .5 making it one of the safest. South African’s is 42 per 100K making it among the highest.


Where can I look up these stats?


Googling is an essential skill. Not optional.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ARE/uae/murder-homicide-rate#:~:text=UAE%20murder%2Fhomicide%20rate%20for,a%202.53%25%20decline%20from%202014.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/ZAF/south-africa/murder-homicide-rate
Anonymous
Post 11/05/2023 16:02     Subject: Middle East/Dubai - xmas
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Security-wise, you'll probably be fine.

But ethics-wise, I would never give my money to countries with such human rights and women's rights records.


Yet you live in the US?


PP you replied to. Are you saying that today, the United States of America is on par with the United Arab Emirates regarding human rights abuses?

Why don't you give us facts to prove your case.




Tons of human rights violations in the USA. Read up on migrant and farm workers. Look at all the children in cages at the borders separated from their parents, lack of basic health care for people, lack of maternity leave, lack of abortion rights, etc etc. I really don't think the US can say much about any other country.


You know you’ve lost the argument when you resort to Whataboutism