Anonymous
11/06/2023 08:47
Subject: What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If AAP signup is completely left as a yearly choice with no entrance criteria, what percent of parents wouldn't enroll their kids? Similar to signing up for honors classes, based on individual preference...
Good question, when it is left for choice, only the truly interested enroll in an advanced class, like honors. And if the voluntary honors course enrollment is not racially diverse, get rid of that course?
I'm all for this provided there is some accountability. You would need to ensure that standards aren't relaxed and when students fail to earn a C or higher for 2 consecutive quarters they are sent back to gen ed.
We're talking about 3rd graders here. They don't get grades, only numbers. And in general, 2s do not mean that a child is in the wrong class - a 1 might.
Removing pre-reqs has not improved the high school experience. Don't know why you think it would improve the elementary school experience.
Anonymous
11/06/2023 08:41
Subject: What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of gossip about AAP being "dismantled". We are looking for a house and had hoped DC might get into AAP.
If there's no more AAP, what happens to the quality of instruction at the local and center schools?
With or without AAP, there will be substantial number of students who will exhaust all honors courses and go on to pursue dual enrollment courses. It's foolish for equity crazies to go after AAP/TJ, with the hope of stopping the top students from learning more. FCPS does not control what the student learns, students do. Unless they can somehow eliminate every available learning resource outside school, such as banning Khan Academy or restrict access to libraries or similar nonsense, the idea of constraining an advanced student's learning remains wishful thinking.
If you are looking for house, safe bet would be McLean, Langley, or Oakton attendance boundaries.
Our family income is well above the median household income and we are both well educated, yet could not afford in McLean or Langley and lately all I'm seeing for SFHs in Oakton are tear downs for 850k (our budget is slightly higher currently, with mortgage rates as they are). Could it really be that the only reliably good public schools are in such wealthy districts?
Some would say so.
Anonymous
11/06/2023 08:40
Subject: Re:What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
Anonymous wrote:We are going to enroll DC in public school starting in Jan (first grade) and I'm looking for advice on how to navigate this as it relates to levels 2, 3, 4. So far I only have outsider knowledge. DC has been in private preschools/schools til now. Any advice on how to ensure DC gets needed services right away? DC is a fluent reader and advanced in math.
Sorry, meant to post this as a new thread.
Anonymous
11/06/2023 08:05
Subject: What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If AAP signup is completely left as a yearly choice with no entrance criteria, what percent of parents wouldn't enroll their kids? Similar to signing up for honors classes, based on individual preference...
Good question, when it is left for choice, only the truly interested enroll in an advanced class, like honors. And if the voluntary honors course enrollment is not racially diverse, get rid of that course?
I'm all for this provided there is some accountability. You would need to ensure that standards aren't relaxed and when students fail to earn a C or higher for 2 consecutive quarters they are sent back to gen ed.
Anonymous
11/06/2023 07:57
Subject: What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
FCPS AAP doesn't start until 3rd grade. Level II services are in 1st/2nd grade and are really only a gauge to which kids are on the radar for the 3rd grade IV program. Level II services will depend on the school you're in, but largely are limited to an extra worksheet, or once a week pull-outs with the AART, which is really geared towards getting good school samples for the application for IV.
Anonymous
11/06/2023 06:11
Subject: Re:What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
We are going to enroll DC in public school starting in Jan (first grade) and I'm looking for advice on how to navigate this as it relates to levels 2, 3, 4. So far I only have outsider knowledge. DC has been in private preschools/schools til now. Any advice on how to ensure DC gets needed services right away? DC is a fluent reader and advanced in math.
Anonymous
11/06/2023 06:04
Subject: What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of gossip about AAP being "dismantled". We are looking for a house and had hoped DC might get into AAP.
If there's no more AAP, what happens to the quality of instruction at the local and center schools?
With or without AAP, there will be substantial number of students who will exhaust all honors courses and go on to pursue dual enrollment courses. It's foolish for equity crazies to go after AAP/TJ, with the hope of stopping the top students from learning more. FCPS does not control what the student learns, students do. Unless they can somehow eliminate every available learning resource outside school, such as banning Khan Academy or restrict access to libraries or similar nonsense, the idea of constraining an advanced student's learning remains wishful thinking.
If you are looking for house, safe bet would be McLean, Langley, or Oakton attendance boundaries.
Our family income is well above the median household income and we are both well educated, yet could not afford in McLean or Langley and lately all I'm seeing for SFHs in Oakton are tear downs for 850k (our budget is slightly higher currently, with mortgage rates as they are). Could it really be that the only reliably good public schools are in such wealthy districts?
Anonymous
11/05/2023 00:21
Subject: Re:What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
AAP is not going anywhere but being ruined to be useful by any means, which sort of, may be, almost like dismantled?
Anonymous
11/05/2023 00:07
Subject: What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
Anonymous wrote:There is NO gossip about AAP being dismantled. There is, however, a poster who keeps posting about it every so often.
Is it you?
This. It’s one or two posters whose kids didn’t get into AAP.
AAP isn’t going anywhere.
Anonymous
11/05/2023 00:05
Subject: What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of gossip about AAP being "dismantled". We are looking for a house and had hoped DC might get into AAP.
If there's no more AAP, what happens to the quality of instruction at the local and center schools?
With or without AAP, there will be substantial number of students who will exhaust all honors courses and go on to pursue dual enrollment courses. It's foolish for equity crazies to go after AAP/TJ, with the hope of stopping the top students from learning more. FCPS does not control what the student learns, students do. Unless they can somehow eliminate every available learning resource outside school, such as banning Khan Academy or restrict access to libraries or similar nonsense, the idea of constraining an advanced student's learning remains wishful thinking.
If you are looking for house, safe bet would be McLean, Langley, or Oakton attendance boundaries.
Anonymous
11/04/2023 23:56
Subject: What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
Anonymous wrote:I've seen some 'gossip' on this site only about this over the past few weeks and it 100% feels like political astroturfers trying to get their far right school board nominees elected. It's not real, no one is trying to get rid of AAP. They CAN'T get rid of AAP without a replacement because it fills a statutory need.
+1
Anonymous
11/04/2023 23:44
Subject: What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of gossip about AAP being "dismantled". We are looking for a house and had hoped DC might get into AAP.
If there's no more AAP, what happens to the quality of instruction at the local and center schools?
With or without AAP, there will be substantial number of students who will exhaust all honors courses and go on to pursue dual enrollment courses. It's foolish for equity crazies to go after AAP/TJ, with the hope of stopping the top students from learning more. FCPS does not control what the student learns, students do. Unless they can somehow eliminate every available learning resource outside school, such as banning Khan Academy or restrict access to libraries, the idea of constraining an advanced student's learning remains wishful thinking.
Anonymous
11/04/2023 17:06
Subject: What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
Anonymous wrote:If AAP signup is completely left as a yearly choice with no entrance criteria, what percent of parents wouldn't enroll their kids? Similar to signing up for honors classes, based on individual preference...
Good question, when it is left for choice, only the truly interested enroll in an advanced class, like honors. And if the voluntary honors course enrollment is not racially diverse, get rid of that course?
Anonymous
11/04/2023 17:03
Subject: What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of gossip about AAP being "dismantled". We are looking for a house and had hoped DC might get into AAP.
If there's no more AAP, what happens to the quality of instruction at the local and center schools?
I heard they would offer AAP for all so that all residents would benefit from the enriched content.
Anonymous
11/04/2023 16:32
Subject: What are the likely implications of AAP being dismantled?
What would happen to the former center schools? Would they still be more academically rigorous? Many people move to neighborhoods of center schools because they are center schools. Maybe not much changes?