Anonymous
11/03/2023 18:29
Subject: Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
I really can't wait for Wednesday when all these astroturfing and fear mongering threads will end.
Anonymous
11/03/2023 18:29
Subject: Re:Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:More pre election fear mongering
Major boundary changes aren’t necessarily bad.
Is the OP wrong on the facts?
OP raises one interesting issue, which is that FCPS isn't very transparent when it adjusts the school capacities reported in the annual CIP. So if they bump up the stated capacity in the CIP, it lends itself to speculation that the numbers are being manipulated in order to justify a future boundary change.
But there just hasn't been much activity to change boundaries over the past 4 years (with an all-Democratic School Board); the more overtly political School Board members get, the less likely they are to do things that would engender noisy opposition; and the reference to Dr. Reid wanting to reconsider small "administrative" boundary changes doesn't seem like a big deal (Brabrand took the position back in 2018 that he wouldn't make "administrative" boundary changes because he wanted the School Board to own all boundary adjustments, but in practice that has just kept FCPS from making the types of small adjustments that used to be more routine).
Why would we assume that she wants the power to adjust boundaries to reinstate a small percentage (3 or 5 or whatever it was)?
Re-doing the policy means that in addition to restoring this power, the percentage that the superintendent can change without bothering the board can also increase.
Anonymous
11/03/2023 18:25
Subject: Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
Anonymous wrote:Are you trying to say they'll move Langley families to Herndon or Oakton families? Either way, they'll get a LOT of pushback. I didn't spend a million plus dollars on my house only to get rezoned to a shitty school.
It's more like when they bump up Herndon's reported post-renovation capacity from 2500 to 2744 the next year with no explanation, they invite Republicans to imply before an election that there must be some plan afoot to move kids to Herndon from Langley, etc. by the Democrats if they get re-elected.
Am I saying they will do so? Absolutely not.
P.S. - If you're trying to pass yourself off as a Langley parent worried about getting rezoned to a "shitty school," you need to say you spent several million dollars on your house, not some paltry "million plus dollars."
Anonymous
11/03/2023 18:17
Subject: Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
Are you trying to say they'll move Langley families to Herndon or Oakton families? Either way, they'll get a LOT of pushback. I didn't spend a million plus dollars on my house only to get rezoned to a shitty school.
Anonymous
11/03/2023 18:09
Subject: Re:Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:More pre election fear mongering
Major boundary changes aren’t necessarily bad.
Is the OP wrong on the facts?
OP raises one interesting issue, which is that FCPS isn't very transparent when it adjusts the school capacities reported in the annual CIP. So if they bump up the stated capacity in the CIP, it lends itself to speculation that the numbers are being manipulated in order to justify a future boundary change.
But there just hasn't been much activity to change boundaries over the past 4 years (with an all-Democratic School Board); the more overtly political School Board members get, the less likely they are to do things that would engender noisy opposition; and the reference to Dr. Reid wanting to reconsider small "administrative" boundary changes doesn't seem like a big deal (Brabrand took the position back in 2018 that he wouldn't make "administrative" boundary changes because he wanted the School Board to own all boundary adjustments, but in practice that has just kept FCPS from making the types of small adjustments that used to be more routine).
Anonymous
11/03/2023 18:02
Subject: Re:Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't think major boundary changes are coming, but they are doing some weird things now.
There are only two boundary studies currently under way: (1) Kent Gardens ES and (2) Glasgow MS.
Kent Gardens is surrounded by under-enrolled ES. Everyone thought they'd just move some Kent Gardens kids to other schools to relieve the overcrowding there. Instead, FCPS came out with five scenarios, several of which involved moving almost 1/2 the kids out of another ES (Franklin Sherman) to other elementary schools to make way for KG kids moving to FS. It almost seems like a trial balloon to see if FCPS can get away with big changes that otherwise aren't necessary.
No one knows what they'll do with Glasgow at this point. It's a very big MS, but they could end up turning several middle schools (Holmes and Poe) into 3-way split feeders to various high schools (with Holmes potentially feeding to Annandale, Edison, and Justice; and Poe potentially feeding to Annandale, Falls Church, and Justice), unless they also change the HS boundaries.
The Glasgow situation is bad (buses are always late both AM and PM) but turning it into a 3 way split feeder is an even hotter mess than they currently have.
The easiest solution would be to send the AAP kids at Glasgow whose base schools are Holmes and Poe back to those schools. But apparently someone from Gatehouse came to a meeting and provided incorrect information as to how AAP kids from those schools are at Glasgow, so parents came away thinking that moving the AAP kids from Holmes and Poe back to those schools wouldn't have any impact. It will remain a hot mess until they get their facts right and people can provide input based on the correct information.
Anonymous
11/03/2023 17:18
Subject: Re:Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
Anonymous wrote:More pre election fear mongering
Major boundary changes aren’t necessarily bad.
Is the OP wrong on the facts?
Anonymous
11/03/2023 17:00
Subject: Re:Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
Anonymous wrote:I don't think major boundary changes are coming, but they are doing some weird things now.
There are only two boundary studies currently under way: (1) Kent Gardens ES and (2) Glasgow MS.
Kent Gardens is surrounded by under-enrolled ES. Everyone thought they'd just move some Kent Gardens kids to other schools to relieve the overcrowding there. Instead, FCPS came out with five scenarios, several of which involved moving almost 1/2 the kids out of another ES (Franklin Sherman) to other elementary schools to make way for KG kids moving to FS. It almost seems like a trial balloon to see if FCPS can get away with big changes that otherwise aren't necessary.
No one knows what they'll do with Glasgow at this point. It's a very big MS, but they could end up turning several middle schools (Holmes and Poe) into 3-way split feeders to various high schools (with Holmes potentially feeding to Annandale, Edison, and Justice; and Poe potentially feeding to Annandale, Falls Church, and Justice), unless they also change the HS boundaries.
The Glasgow situation is bad (buses are always late both AM and PM) but turning it into a 3 way split feeder is an even hotter mess than they currently have.
Anonymous
11/03/2023 13:17
Subject: Re:Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The current board will wait until after the election, expecting yet another dem-majority on the board. They they will ram-through boundary-changes over the objections of residents and other board members.
Don’t claim they have not been planning this all along:
No they won't. They may not be on the ballot, but there is an election ever november and voters angry with their school board don't turn out. LCPS did it last time and now we have Republicans holding all state offices. Democrats can't possibly be that stupid again
They got Youngkin elected, didn’t they?
Anonymous
11/03/2023 12:40
Subject: Re:Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
More pre election fear mongering
Anonymous
11/03/2023 12:30
Subject: Re:Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
Anonymous wrote:The current board will wait until after the election, expecting yet another dem-majority on the board. They they will ram-through boundary-changes over the objections of residents and other board members.
Don’t claim they have not been planning this all along:
No they won't. They may not be on the ballot, but there is an election ever november and voters angry with their school board don't turn out. LCPS did it last time and now we have Republicans holding all state offices. Democrats can't possibly be that stupid again
Anonymous
11/03/2023 12:05
Subject: Re:Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
Anonymous wrote:I don't think major boundary changes are coming, but they are doing some weird things now.
There are only two boundary studies currently under way: (1) Kent Gardens ES and (2) Glasgow MS.
Kent Gardens is surrounded by under-enrolled ES. Everyone thought they'd just move some Kent Gardens kids to other schools to relieve the overcrowding there. Instead, FCPS came out with five scenarios, several of which involved moving almost 1/2 the kids out of another ES (Franklin Sherman) to other elementary schools to make way for KG kids moving to FS. It almost seems like a trial balloon to see if FCPS can get away with big changes that otherwise aren't necessary.
No one knows what they'll do with Glasgow at this point. It's a very big MS, but they could end up turning several middle schools (Holmes and Poe) into 3-way split feeders to various high schools (with Holmes potentially feeding to Annandale, Edison, and Justice; and Poe potentially feeding to Annandale, Falls Church, and Justice), unless they also change the HS boundaries.
Actions that don’t make sense— like when in 2018/19 they refused to adjust the Langley/McLean boundary because they were saving it for their planned countywide boundary redraw.
Make a big enough mess and then say it doesn’t make sense, let’s take a fresh look at all the boundaries.
Anonymous
11/03/2023 12:04
Subject: Re:Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
The current board will wait until after the election, expecting yet another dem-majority on the board. They they will ram-through boundary-changes over the objections of residents and other board members.
Don’t claim they have not been planning this all along:
Don’t claim they have not been planning this all along:
Anonymous
11/03/2023 10:40
Subject: Re:Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
I don't think major boundary changes are coming, but they are doing some weird things now.
There are only two boundary studies currently under way: (1) Kent Gardens ES and (2) Glasgow MS.
Kent Gardens is surrounded by under-enrolled ES. Everyone thought they'd just move some Kent Gardens kids to other schools to relieve the overcrowding there. Instead, FCPS came out with five scenarios, several of which involved moving almost 1/2 the kids out of another ES (Franklin Sherman) to other elementary schools to make way for KG kids moving to FS. It almost seems like a trial balloon to see if FCPS can get away with big changes that otherwise aren't necessary.
No one knows what they'll do with Glasgow at this point. It's a very big MS, but they could end up turning several middle schools (Holmes and Poe) into 3-way split feeders to various high schools (with Holmes potentially feeding to Annandale, Edison, and Justice; and Poe potentially feeding to Annandale, Falls Church, and Justice), unless they also change the HS boundaries.
There are only two boundary studies currently under way: (1) Kent Gardens ES and (2) Glasgow MS.
Kent Gardens is surrounded by under-enrolled ES. Everyone thought they'd just move some Kent Gardens kids to other schools to relieve the overcrowding there. Instead, FCPS came out with five scenarios, several of which involved moving almost 1/2 the kids out of another ES (Franklin Sherman) to other elementary schools to make way for KG kids moving to FS. It almost seems like a trial balloon to see if FCPS can get away with big changes that otherwise aren't necessary.
No one knows what they'll do with Glasgow at this point. It's a very big MS, but they could end up turning several middle schools (Holmes and Poe) into 3-way split feeders to various high schools (with Holmes potentially feeding to Annandale, Edison, and Justice; and Poe potentially feeding to Annandale, Falls Church, and Justice), unless they also change the HS boundaries.
Anonymous
11/03/2023 09:36
Subject: Re:Yup— major boundary changes incoming.
Weird capacity changes in the CIP, a new superintendent who is bold about her commitment to equal outcomes, and written record that this same superintendent wants more boundary changes
But nothing is going on.
Sure.
But nothing is going on.
Sure.