Anonymous
11/04/2023 15:58
Subject: What is AAP really?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1. DCUM: AAP is segregation of rich and poor. AAP is not the path to equity so should be abolished.
2. Also DCUM: AAP is no different than gen ed. Your snowflake will be just fine in gen ed.
3. DCUM again: AAP is a refuge from disruptive kids and remedial schooling.
Which is it?
1 and 3 are both true.
No one says 2.
Eh, I think 2 is pretty true other than math. GenEd kids can take all
Honors in 7th . Almost none of my kids’ all-honors MS peers were aap kids, yet they’re all thriving. Honors classes aren’t exclusively for gifted students. And while I think aap standards have likely been watered down over the years, I can’t imagine that the intent was to block capable genEd kids from taking advanced classes when it starts to really count. Point being, I don’t think getting into AAP for ES is that critical unless your child is truly exceptional and truly needs a diff experience. The kids that are generally motivated and bright
(Not gifted) will all end up at the same exact place in 7th grade.
“Honors” math in gen Ed isn’t very advanced.
In elementary, gen ed advanced math follows the exact same pacing guide as AAP math. I had one kid in each at the same time, and there really wasn't any difference between the two. In middle school, the gen ed advanced math kids and AAP kids are in the exact same Algebra I honors or M7H classes.
Maybe it is school specific. In my district, honors is just slightly more material. 7th grade adv math is learning pre-Alg. 7th grade AAP is leaving alg I/II combined in one year
What are you even talking about? AAP is the FCPS gifted program. It's not a generic name, it is for FCPS, the Fairfax County School District.
Advanced Math has a clearly defined progression. There's no class that is Algebra I and II.
Anonymous
11/04/2023 15:55
Subject: What is AAP really?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1. DCUM: AAP is segregation of rich and poor. AAP is not the path to equity so should be abolished.
2. Also DCUM: AAP is no different than gen ed. Your snowflake will be just fine in gen ed.
3. DCUM again: AAP is a refuge from disruptive kids and remedial schooling.
Which is it?
1 and 3 are both true.
No one says 2.
Eh, I think 2 is pretty true other than math. GenEd kids can take all
Honors in 7th . Almost none of my kids’ all-honors MS peers were aap kids, yet they’re all thriving. Honors classes aren’t exclusively for gifted students. And while I think aap standards have likely been watered down over the years, I can’t imagine that the intent was to block capable genEd kids from taking advanced classes when it starts to really count. Point being, I don’t think getting into AAP for ES is that critical unless your child is truly exceptional and truly needs a diff experience. The kids that are generally motivated and bright
(Not gifted) will all end up at the same exact place in 7th grade.
“Honors” math in gen Ed isn’t very advanced.
In elementary, gen ed advanced math follows the exact same pacing guide as AAP math. I had one kid in each at the same time, and there really wasn't any difference between the two. In middle school, the gen ed advanced math kids and AAP kids are in the exact same Algebra I honors or M7H classes.
Maybe it is school specific. In my district, honors is just slightly more material. 7th grade adv math is learning pre-Alg. 7th grade AAP is leaving alg I/II combined in one year
Anonymous
11/04/2023 15:47
Subject: Re:What is AAP really?
Anonymous wrote:Who cares?
Michelle Reid and the all-democrat school board are in the process of dismantling AAP for “equity reasons.”
It will not be around much longer.
How else can equity be achieved? Keeping it in its current form is causing achievement gap. One student is graduating with just Algebra-2 and others are learning lot more and graduating with multivariable calculus. This goes against equity education where every student must more or less graduate with same level of education.
Anonymous
11/04/2023 15:34
Subject: What is AAP really?
Anonymous wrote:Lower SES kids are screwed because of their school environment and peers, not because of their parents./quote]If only gifted lower SES kids could access a school environment with high but realistic expectations and a cohort of similarly gifted, motivated peers. But of course, that's just a pipe dream. Poors will be poors, after all Let's languish in our saviour complex while driving our kids to and from RSM/AoPS/Curie.
Anonymous
11/04/2023 13:30
Subject: Re:What is AAP really?
Anonymous wrote:Who cares?
Michelle Reid and the all-democrat school board are in the process of dismantling AAP for “equity reasons.”
It will not be around much longer.
How do you know?
Anonymous
11/04/2023 13:29
Subject: Re:What is AAP really?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As someone new, it's crazy how there were 1-3 useful, thoughtful responses and the rest are all name calling juvenile nonsense.
Get used to it, I'm afraid. Anonymity brings out the worst.
No, this particular forum was created for the worst. Some new people seem to have interpreted its existence as something that should be helpful but it was actually created to get rid of the most awful posters from Virginia Schools Forum (FCPS was later removed to its own forum).
In my somewhat limited experience there plenty of awful posters in the FCPS forum. There are many useful threads here, and helpful posters, but the nasty anti-AAP people can't help themselves...
Anonymous
11/04/2023 11:25
Subject: What is AAP really?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1. DCUM: AAP is segregation of rich and poor. AAP is not the path to equity so should be abolished.
2. Also DCUM: AAP is no different than gen ed. Your snowflake will be just fine in gen ed.
3. DCUM again: AAP is a refuge from disruptive kids and remedial schooling.
Which is it?
1 and 3 are both true.
No one says 2.
Eh, I think 2 is pretty true other than math. GenEd kids can take all
Honors in 7th . Almost none of my kids’ all-honors MS peers were aap kids, yet they’re all thriving. Honors classes aren’t exclusively for gifted students. And while I think aap standards have likely been watered down over the years, I can’t imagine that the intent was to block capable genEd kids from taking advanced classes when it starts to really count. Point being, I don’t think getting into AAP for ES is that critical unless your child is truly exceptional and truly needs a diff experience. The kids that are generally motivated and bright
(Not gifted) will all end up at the same exact place in 7th grade.
“Honors” math in gen Ed isn’t very advanced.
Which is why I clearly acknowledged this in my opening sentence. I love that parents of “gifted” kids on this forum seize every single opportunity to be rude and dismissive to others… just waiting for the moment to show how your kid - and you - are superior. I think what you meant to type was “please don’t think your non aap kid is smart because they take math 7th honors”. Believe me, I get that you need to take algebra I in 7th to be as special as your kid.
oh no algebra in 7th is just average you need to take it in 6th or earlier to be truly gifted but also be at one of the wealthier schools that offers this type of enrichment
Anonymous
11/04/2023 10:42
Subject: What is AAP really?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1. DCUM: AAP is segregation of rich and poor. AAP is not the path to equity so should be abolished.
2. Also DCUM: AAP is no different than gen ed. Your snowflake will be just fine in gen ed.
3. DCUM again: AAP is a refuge from disruptive kids and remedial schooling.
Which is it?
1 and 3 are both true.
No one says 2.
Eh, I think 2 is pretty true other than math. GenEd kids can take all
Honors in 7th . Almost none of my kids’ all-honors MS peers were aap kids, yet they’re all thriving. Honors classes aren’t exclusively for gifted students. And while I think aap standards have likely been watered down over the years, I can’t imagine that the intent was to block capable genEd kids from taking advanced classes when it starts to really count. Point being, I don’t think getting into AAP for ES is that critical unless your child is truly exceptional and truly needs a diff experience. The kids that are generally motivated and bright
(Not gifted) will all end up at the same exact place in 7th grade.
“Honors” math in gen Ed isn’t very advanced.
Which is why I clearly acknowledged this in my opening sentence. I love that parents of “gifted” kids on this forum seize every single opportunity to be rude and dismissive to others… just waiting for the moment to show how your kid - and you - are superior. I think what you meant to type was “please don’t think your non aap kid is smart because they take math 7th honors”. Believe me, I get that you need to take algebra I in 7th to be as special as your kid.
Anonymous
11/04/2023 10:40
Subject: Re:What is AAP really?
Who cares?
Michelle Reid and the all-democrat school board are in the process of dismantling AAP for “equity reasons.”
It will not be around much longer.
Michelle Reid and the all-democrat school board are in the process of dismantling AAP for “equity reasons.”
It will not be around much longer.
Anonymous
11/04/2023 10:33
Subject: What is AAP really?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1. DCUM: AAP is segregation of rich and poor. AAP is not the path to equity so should be abolished.
2. Also DCUM: AAP is no different than gen ed. Your snowflake will be just fine in gen ed.
3. DCUM again: AAP is a refuge from disruptive kids and remedial schooling.
Which is it?
1 and 3 are both true.
No one says 2.
Eh, I think 2 is pretty true other than math. GenEd kids can take all
Honors in 7th . Almost none of my kids’ all-honors MS peers were aap kids, yet they’re all thriving. Honors classes aren’t exclusively for gifted students. And while I think aap standards have likely been watered down over the years, I can’t imagine that the intent was to block capable genEd kids from taking advanced classes when it starts to really count. Point being, I don’t think getting into AAP for ES is that critical unless your child is truly exceptional and truly needs a diff experience. The kids that are generally motivated and bright
(Not gifted) will all end up at the same exact place in 7th grade.
“Honors” math in gen Ed isn’t very advanced.
In elementary, gen ed advanced math follows the exact same pacing guide as AAP math. I had one kid in each at the same time, and there really wasn't any difference between the two. In middle school, the gen ed advanced math kids and AAP kids are in the exact same Algebra I honors or M7H classes.
Anonymous
11/04/2023 09:41
Subject: What is AAP really?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:1. DCUM: AAP is segregation of rich and poor. AAP is not the path to equity so should be abolished.
2. Also DCUM: AAP is no different than gen ed. Your snowflake will be just fine in gen ed.
3. DCUM again: AAP is a refuge from disruptive kids and remedial schooling.
Which is it?
1 and 3 are both true.
No one says 2.
Eh, I think 2 is pretty true other than math. GenEd kids can take all
Honors in 7th . Almost none of my kids’ all-honors MS peers were aap kids, yet they’re all thriving. Honors classes aren’t exclusively for gifted students. And while I think aap standards have likely been watered down over the years, I can’t imagine that the intent was to block capable genEd kids from taking advanced classes when it starts to really count. Point being, I don’t think getting into AAP for ES is that critical unless your child is truly exceptional and truly needs a diff experience. The kids that are generally motivated and bright
(Not gifted) will all end up at the same exact place in 7th grade.
“Honors” math in gen Ed isn’t very advanced.
Anonymous
11/04/2023 09:18
Subject: What is AAP really?
Anonymous wrote:DCUM: AAP is segregation of rich and poor. AAP is not the path to equity so should be abolished.
Also DCUM: AAP is no different than gen ed. Your snowflake will be just fine in gen ed.
DCUM again: AAP is a refuge from disruptive kids and remedial schooling.
Which is it?
All of the above.
Anonymous
11/04/2023 08:50
Subject: Re:What is AAP really?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As someone new, it's crazy how there were 1-3 useful, thoughtful responses and the rest are all name calling juvenile nonsense.
Get used to it, I'm afraid. Anonymity brings out the worst.
No, this particular forum was created for the worst. Some new people seem to have interpreted its existence as something that should be helpful but it was actually created to get rid of the most awful posters from Virginia Schools Forum (FCPS was later removed to its own forum).
Anonymous
11/04/2023 08:10
Subject: Re:What is AAP really?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's definitely advanced math.
But I thought you can do the same advanced math without being in AAP?
I think you can now. When my now 9th grader and now 6th grader were deciding whether to go to the AAP center, you could not have that math at their local base until 5th grade.
Anonymous
11/04/2023 07:17
Subject: Re:What is AAP really?
Anonymous wrote:As someone new, it's crazy how there were 1-3 useful, thoughtful responses and the rest are all name calling juvenile nonsense.
Get used to it, I'm afraid. Anonymity brings out the worst.