Anonymous
10/26/2023 16:36
Subject: Will travel to Europe be down next summer?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is a little amazing that the air prices have gone up so fast without really affecting demand. Who would have thought leisure travel was so inelastic?
Me. I think there was a lot of suppressed demand from the pandemic. And I also think that people reevaluated their priorities and put travel higher up the list.
…Plus, Europe is pretty good value compared to the States
The strong dollar certainly helps!
Anonymous
10/26/2023 16:28
Subject: Will travel to Europe be down next summer?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What terrorism?
For example: https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxj7gz/two-men-arrested-over-alleged-terror-attack-plots-in-europe-to-avenge-gaza
Also check State Dept travel advisories. Western Europe almost all at level 2 and they issued a Worldwide Caution to US citizens: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/worldwide-caution.html.
Do you realize that other foreign governments are issuing similar cautionary guidance to their citizens regarding travel to the US?
In your own country, you are better able to spot things that might be out of the ordinary. If I travel overseas during times of turmoil, I stick to countries more familiar to me.
Okay, so the comparison you warned against traveling to was Western Europe. Do you really feel you’re safer/more unique positioned to avoid/evade a bomb attack/ mass shooting in NYC or Chicago than in Paris or Madrid?
Anonymous
10/26/2023 16:02
Subject: Will travel to Europe be down next summer?
I don’t know. I think it would be logical that travel to EU would decrease, but apparently there’s enough demand for prices to be sky high. I don’t get it either.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 14:55
Subject: Re:Will travel to Europe be down next summer?
No, but I do think we might see an uptick in interest in Scandinavia and the Baltic countries. Last summer's weather was just brutal in the usual European tourist haunts (Italy, Greece, southern Spain and France).
Anonymous
10/26/2023 14:48
Subject: Will travel to Europe be down next summer?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What terrorism?
For example: https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxj7gz/two-men-arrested-over-alleged-terror-attack-plots-in-europe-to-avenge-gaza
Also check State Dept travel advisories. Western Europe almost all at level 2 and they issued a Worldwide Caution to US citizens: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/worldwide-caution.html.
Do you realize that other foreign governments are issuing similar cautionary guidance to their citizens regarding travel to the US?
In your own country, you are better able to spot things that might be out of the ordinary. If I travel overseas during times of turmoil, I stick to countries more familiar to me.
So true. I stick to tried and true safe things like bowling alleys.
Or my kids elementary school in a beautiful wooded suburban area. You know, ordinary safe places.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 14:47
Subject: Will travel to Europe be down next summer?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What terrorism?
For example: https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxj7gz/two-men-arrested-over-alleged-terror-attack-plots-in-europe-to-avenge-gaza
Also check State Dept travel advisories. Western Europe almost all at level 2 and they issued a Worldwide Caution to US citizens: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/worldwide-caution.html.
Do you realize that other foreign governments are issuing similar cautionary guidance to their citizens regarding travel to the US?
In your own country, you are better able to spot things that might be out of the ordinary. If I travel overseas during times of turmoil, I stick to countries more familiar to me.
So true. I stick to tried and true safe things like bowling alleys.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 14:45
Subject: Will travel to Europe be down next summer?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What terrorism?
For example: https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxj7gz/two-men-arrested-over-alleged-terror-attack-plots-in-europe-to-avenge-gaza
Also check State Dept travel advisories. Western Europe almost all at level 2 and they issued a Worldwide Caution to US citizens: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/worldwide-caution.html.
Do you realize that other foreign governments are issuing similar cautionary guidance to their citizens regarding travel to the US?
In your own country, you are better able to spot things that might be out of the ordinary. If I travel overseas during times of turmoil, I stick to countries more familiar to me.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 11:22
Subject: Will travel to Europe be down next summer?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What terrorism?
For example: https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxj7gz/two-men-arrested-over-alleged-terror-attack-plots-in-europe-to-avenge-gaza
Also check State Dept travel advisories. Western Europe almost all at level 2 and they issued a Worldwide Caution to US citizens: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/worldwide-caution.html.
Do you realize that other foreign governments are issuing similar cautionary guidance to their citizens regarding travel to the US?
Anonymous
10/26/2023 11:13
Subject: Will travel to Europe be down next summer?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What terrorism?
For example: https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxj7gz/two-men-arrested-over-alleged-terror-attack-plots-in-europe-to-avenge-gaza
Also check State Dept travel advisories. Western Europe almost all at level 2 and they issued a Worldwide Caution to US citizens: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/worldwide-caution.html.
It's true- should probably just go to a safe place like Maine.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 10:58
Subject: Will travel to Europe be down next summer?
Anonymous wrote:What terrorism?
For example: https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxj7gz/two-men-arrested-over-alleged-terror-attack-plots-in-europe-to-avenge-gaza
Also check State Dept travel advisories. Western Europe almost all at level 2 and they issued a Worldwide Caution to US citizens: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/worldwide-caution.html.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 09:07
Subject: Will travel to Europe be down next summer?
Anonymous wrote:It is a little amazing that the air prices have gone up so fast without really affecting demand. Who would have thought leisure travel was so inelastic?
Many travel to see families back home, bot only in Europe but those who fly through Europe, which affects demand. Sure it’s a type of leisure travel, but it’s probably less elastic than pure tourism.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 08:54
Subject: Will travel to Europe be down next summer?
If you're waiting until crowds go down, OP, you will never go. Just book your trip and go, have fun.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 08:29
Subject: Will travel to Europe be down next summer?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is a little amazing that the air prices have gone up so fast without really affecting demand. Who would have thought leisure travel was so inelastic?
Me. I think there was a lot of suppressed demand from the pandemic. And I also think that people reevaluated their priorities and put travel higher up the list.
Plus, Europe is pretty good value compared to the States…
Yes, and the incomes/wealth of the top 20% or so continues to rise. That is who makes up the vast majority of those traveling overseas.
Anonymous
10/26/2023 07:57
Subject: Will travel to Europe be down next summer?
Anonymous wrote:It is a little amazing that the air prices have gone up so fast without really affecting demand. Who would have thought leisure travel was so inelastic?
Me. I think there was a lot of suppressed demand from the pandemic. And I also think that people reevaluated their priorities and put travel higher up the list.
Plus, Europe is pretty good value compared to the States…