Anonymous wrote:Don't be too psycho. I know it has been a few years, but I got into UVa OOS with no calculus and no science senior year (2 histories instead). Not everyone does STEM.

Yes, if you got in with that, it has indeed been a few years. I got into Duke, Davidson, Wake Forest, Emory, Vanderbilt and UNC— which was my safety school— out of a nothing public HS. It has indeed been a few years.

Anonymous wrote:There are a good couple of hundred fcps kids who graduate having done Multivariable/Linear algebra in senior year. So their math progression is:
12: Multivariable Calc + Linear algebra
11: AP Calc AB/BC
10: Precalc/Trig or AP Calc AB
09: Algebra 2

https://insys.fcps.edu/CourseCatOnline/courselist/415/10/0/0/0/1

Good for them…doesn’t answer OP’s question at all.

There are a good couple of hundred fcps kids who graduate having done Multivariable/Linear algebra in senior year. So their math progression is:
12: Multivariable Calc + Linear algebra
11: AP Calc AB/BC
10: Precalc/Trig or AP Calc AB
09: Algebra 2

https://insys.fcps.edu/CourseCatOnline/courselist/415/10/0/0/0/1

As a Literature major my daughter's T30 univ did not care about her lack of Calc. She did however do well in stats (Honors not AP). She did AP Lit/English, AP Govt, AP French, AP Spanish -- 5s on those.

Like daughter like mom. Despise STEM.

Don't be too psycho. I know it has been a few years, but I got into UVa OOS with no calculus and no science senior year (2 histories instead). Not everyone does STEM.

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Anonymous wrote:If kid takes pre-calc as a senior can they get into a 50-100 school?

Which ranking system?

Definitely if their school doesn’t offer higher math than that. If there was a more challenging option available it would be a little harder I think.

oh please. I went to a Title 1 HS that graduated 100 kids a year in the rural south. And I had access to AP Calc AB. Not 5 people took it. But it was offered. I don’t think a high school that didn’t even offer pre-Calc could maintain accreditation.

yes fairly certain all HS offer pre-calc/trig. But there definately are schools that do not offer calculus---many are rural smaller schools.

+1 Lived in a town of 5K in midwest in ES/MS. Just checked---their HS tops out with Pre-calc (full year) and a semester of Stats. There are literally NO AP courses offered at all.
I suspect this is typical for many smaller, rural school districts.

Let me just say how happy I am my parents moved from that area---and now I know why I was so intensely bored in school there

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Anonymous wrote:If kid takes pre-calc as a senior can they get into a 50-100 school?

Which ranking system?

Definitely if their school doesn’t offer higher math than that. If there was a more challenging option available it would be a little harder I think.

oh please. I went to a Title 1 HS that graduated 100 kids a year in the rural south. And I had access to AP Calc AB. Not 5 people took it. But it was offered. I don’t think a high school that didn’t even offer pre-Calc could maintain accreditation.

yes fairly certain all HS offer pre-calc/trig. But there definately are schools that do not offer calculus---many are rural smaller schools.

Anonymous wrote:Pre-calc is a typical sophomore/junior class, so I don’t think skipping it would be great for admissions.

It is a senior year class if a student is "on grade level". On grade level is algebra, geometry, algebra 2 and then pre-calc/trig in HS.

We are all just so used to kids starting algebra in MS

Anonymous wrote:How important for college admissions? Can you take stats instead?

It depends on the major more than the overall college.

The following majors require Calculus

All Engineering majors
All Business majors
Arts and Sciences:
Biology
Chemistry and Biochemistry
Computer Science
Economics
Environmental Science (not Environmental Studies)
Mathematics
Neuroscience
Physics
Public Health

The following majors do not require Calculus

Arts and Sciences:
Anthropology
Art and Art History
Classics
Communication
English
Environmental Studies
Ethnic Studies
History
Liberal Studies
Modern Languages
Music
Philosophy
Political Science
Psychology
Religious Studies
Sociology
Theatre and Dance
Women and Gender Studies

To answer a pp, my child took precalc in Senior year in HS and is in a college ranked 50-100.

Anonymous wrote:My college freshman is retaking pre-calc now with lots of others kids who either didn’t take it or didn’t do well enough on the college placement test. It depends on what you kid wants to major in. Stats is more useful in life but pre-calc is necessary for calculus so it depends.

School name? Answering this without that, is not helpful. I would think that very, very few top schools have students who did not take precalc.

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Anonymous wrote:If kid takes pre-calc as a senior can they get into a 50-100 school?

Which ranking system?

Definitely if their school doesn’t offer higher math than that. If there was a more challenging option available it would be a little harder I think.

oh please. I went to a Title 1 HS that graduated 100 kids a year in the rural south. And I had access to AP Calc AB. Not 5 people took it. But it was offered. I don’t think a high school that didn’t even offer pre-Calc could maintain accreditation.

Anonymous wrote:If kid takes pre-calc as a senior can they get into a 50-100 school?

Large SEC school, not a competitive school like business or engineering? Possibly. I’d say yes, but some of these schools are becoming increasingly popular.

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Anonymous wrote:If kid takes pre-calc as a senior can they get into a 50-100 school?

Which ranking system?

Definitely if their school doesn’t offer higher math than that. If there was a more challenging option available it would be a little harder I think.

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Anonymous wrote:If kid takes pre-calc as a senior can they get into a 50-100 school?

Which ranking system?

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